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The Parrsitivity Podcast
The Parrsitivity Podcast

Episode 101 · 2 years ago

The Parrsitivity Podcast Episode 1 with the @carbonfibrepodcast

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Hi and welcome to the Parrsitivity Podcast

this is Episode 1 with Katy @Thecarbonfibreart @Thecarbonfibreartpodcast 

Katy makes art using carbon fibre, check out her profiles!.

This is my first podcast of many to come!, hope you enjoy and take something positive from it!.

check out my content on insta @Parrsitivity94 @Theparrsitivity_podcast


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Hiler. Okay, see, you're right. Yeah, I'm kid. How are you doing? Good? Yeah, good, so good. So, yeah, is this your first podcast? Is it? Or if you don't, according to voices, I'm just trying to so I want you. Yeah, I um. It's something that I wanted to do for like a long time, but I think I've put it off quite a while. Yeah, it's a bit daunting, isn't it? So it's kind of like getting your head round the idea sticking that much of you out there. Yeah, bye. I do you listen to podcast yourself? Yeah, there's a few I listen to. Like there's like because I quite like my cars. It is quite a few round cars and kind of touring. Yeah, and Japan as well. There's lows on Japan. Yeah, I've never looked at the car ones but by the quite interesting. Yeah, they tend to be fairly interesting. Is it like the way kind of different cultures kind of a Dune to cars and how they kind of see it and how it plays into their culture? Is it's like so different in different areas? Yeah, because I've noticed like the work that you do, like your podcast called the carbon fiber podcast. Yeah, I know. I'd like welling your description and said that you like kind of make the common fiber light art. Yeah, that's right. So what does that look like and tail? Well then, it's weird that kind of it's not really meant like carbon fiber predominantly is. It's used for airy space really, so obviously like more commonly known for kind of F one stuff. Yeah, he's quite a lot there, and that's like it's really designed for the fact that it's so strong. It's quite flexible as well as being quite strong. So obviously, like, I mean, that's brilliant, isn't it? As lights as it is as well, it's great for Formula One speed that kind of thing. It's never really designed for what I use it for. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Up I grew up with it, so I watched my dad and from a really young age and yeah, pieces with it and it kind of it went from there. I went obviously went on to uni and in kind of did my art degree and stuff, and the followed bits and pieces. I like and I think kind of coming back it was like almost like the most natural thing to do was put what I already know, hmm, together with what I'd actually learned. Yeah, so yeah, I'm like like, literally, the conversation between me and my dad on how how I was going to go and to put this stuff together was was cook and I art with this, and he was like yeah, yeah, from there it kind of it was a lot of experimenting because because they're the composites, they will react differently. So I resins and my colors are pigments and then they have to be kind of mixed with their clear resin. Well, then a catalyst as well so that they go off. And it's amazing that the temperature, so whatever day is, I mean like the summer this year is crazy warm, wasn't it? And it's hot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it would just stuff would go off really quickly or Christ or you'd finished the yeah, like temperature, the amount of catalyst versus resin that you put together affects it as well. So beginning stages there were so many messods Christ, I'm gonna Imagine. Yeah, literally stuff that will not see the night of day. Well, it is a yeah, it's so the overall look when I've actually finished, the surface is completely flat, so there's no brush marks or brush drinks in it at all and there's nothing raised on it at all and the surface is also really high gloss. So yeah, really this starts brilliant for the kitchen because you can just wipe it with anything. It doesn't that doesn't need any glasses if you're free with anything. I think I've never seen one kind of carbon fiber piece of bar...

...and I think it was in an art going somewhere and they taken like a part of the D F One car. That's yeah, I bet that same alistair. He he's a former. He was a former chief F one mechanic. Don't worry. Yeah, he credible, like, like his story is amazing. Like, if you get him podcast, definitely t that. But yeah, amazing the story to tell. And Yeah, all of his parts are carbon fiber, but then the actual the parts and the sculptures he makes, they will from fone cars. The components are specifically kind of sourced so that they kind of meet whatever he's doing sculpturing. He's incredible work. I've met him a couple of times. Wow, I'll find, I find, you know, are fascinating because it's someone's imagination and creativity in kind of you know, this is their imaginations and it's been put into something in creative. It is really weird how people kind of see it, especially without because like everyone's artistic, like the way, no matter what they're into or what their thing is, their approach it like creatively, because everyone's different. So they everyone sees the world in a different way. So their approach whatever they do in their own particular style. But it's money with art because it's such a visual people can kind of relate to it a lot easier than seeing that. You know, obviously a painting on the wall is different from another painting on the wall, whereas if you're I don't know if you're you're doing accounts, one accountant might do it very differently to another accountant. But yeah, it's still for me I can see the creating creativity in it and but I think that later for our wise is it's very visual. It's much easier for people to kind of relate to that. Yeah, I think there must be like quite a wide audience in that area. kind of like that kind of parts. I mean there's a lot of everyone. Fans are there, isn't there, and people like common fible. Yeah, yeah, there is then the cover FIBS. Weird actually because because I start it like a long time ago. It's kind of before I really had kind of Instagram at all. So kind of if you're talking like seven, eight years ago. Yeah, for that one of the first things I did was a Lamborgini, but it kind of never read a one. I never really got the light light the day because you just didn't have that social media background to kind of Ping it off. But yeah, the the early ones not a huge amount of people saw. And also carbon fiber in the last kind of ten years has just grown massively in popularity. I think it's just been coming one of those things that is far more accessible because probably so much you can do with it as well. Incredibly this yeah, there's just so much you can do that. I mean it literally goes up into space, so it's like incredible product. I think it's all out one the lightest materials or someone's while I use it on the the class because they control is such a speed. There's no weight to it. Really it's like plastic, because sometimes the carbon I use is there's kind of different kinds, so I use I don't want to say standard, because it's like that makes its own cheap and but there's a cheaper than the error space is grade cal, which is a lot Rale expensive, but that's because it, you know, is it's tested and batch tested really often. So they do things like count the thread count will be exactly saying the weights, and they're do things like that. So, like the kind of luxury of it is that it's perfect. Yeah, there is, is there's a lot of perfection. And you know, when you look at it, cotton fiber, how it's crafted in as it's a craft, isn't it? And we've brought you suppose you know it's the same as a craft to what you do. Yeah, definitely, and there's a whole process to it as well. Like I kind of when I buy it, I buy it as a material, so it's on the roll and you can get it in different forms. You can get preprey, which is technically kind of a materialated with the actual resin. So there's different forms that you can get to and then there's different techniques that you use to them process it into depending on what you use...

...it for. HMM, not as really interesting. I mean, I've never really been into light fone or like carbon fire or anything like DART, but I recently kind of took more interest in it as I used to work for David Richards. He's high up in the FONE and most sport world. I can't use I think it's chairman of don't get the thought. Don't get it wrong. Think it was as Aston Martin. I think it was like a little picture like I'm sure he's on linked in some yeah, and he I worked to him in his hotels, got too hotels in I say Moore's and Cormall so here and say Morso Hotel in the outer rocks and I worked for him and both of those and I met him a few times and he is a fone. Friends would come down as the company. Yeah, this is fone friends and pipe important people come down from ione who do driving and stuff. Yeah, kind of you know, took an interest in it and it's quite it's quite fascinating. It is a whole different world, isn't it like the the entire community, that everything is completely different and not how you'd expect it as well. I think they probably has a bit of a stereotype for being this very kind of luxury as posh and kind of, but I've found it to be completely different to that. It's doing the I did good wood festival speed last year and a lot of the the kind of F one group and go to that and they're so nice, like it's Litt Yeah, another family down there the kind of a really enthusiastic and they kind of want to help. And I mean like loads of friends down there that I kind of I keep in touch with and bits and pieces with them. Yeah, it's is really lovely. I love it. Yeah, I feel that makes it nice when you got that Nice community to it like that, you know the so I love the vibe. Attract your tribe, doesn't it? It's, you know, in around. It's like mind of people, incredible community around it. Yeah, there's just seems to be lots and lots of people that are genuinely really nice, like seriously good and sports events, as foot carp sports car events. Yeah, but yeah, I keep in touch with a few one of rich garriage style on it down there and they're kind of linked with eventive events and they're doing loads of super car events this year. Not Fight to do is I'll see. Yeah, that'll be fun. Yeah, so if you if you always been interested in like cars, if one. Yeah, anything, like bikes as well, like the memories I have being a kid and kind of watching stuff on TV and watching my dad pool part bikes and stuff and I got my like by earliest moment. I must have been tiny, but I can remember sitting outside the shed with a you know, like the world washing up bowls. Yeah, yeah, like a pile level bits of biking. It's just cleaning them. I've no idea what was in at all. Yeah, it's cleaning them and giving him back to my dad. I think he was trying to keep me busy, like occupy its. Yeah, brilliant. I was like, you know, probably like eight or nine or something like that, and just thinking like I'm having the best time. You know, I movest eight year old or nine year old girls would be out playing with some yeah, you're playing a lot of bits of metal and oils. It's a playing with Barbbie dolls, toys and stereotypical girl. I just cut the hair off them in kind of it with different pens. Yeah, yeah, I think it's by I mean I often speak about it when I do like videos on my instagram page for my coach and you know, about being happy and what you do and trying to find your passion and just trying things out. Definitely. Yeah, try it. Just try everything. If you can be as open minded as possible, especially when you come to different doors and when they're opening, being able to recognize when there's that different party you can go on or something that I think that's really key. Yeah, I think. I think, like it wasn't until I started...

I swap jobs. Basically I was I was in Manchester for a one and I came back to count number where I'm originally from. Yeah, and I kind of took a job very quickly. It's just a Solm receptionist at a plum. I took it very quickly just to kind of get back on payroll and thought out deposit for a house and stuff. So, yeah, I wasn't really thinking about it too much and I was, you know, like over full time hours, like difficult in something I didn't really want to do, and it came to a point where where I think it just it got too much and I definitely didn't want to do it anymore. So I started looking around. I found a job in a little framers HMM. It was less ours and less money and initially I didn't get the job at first. They found me back. It's actually it's even less ours now, but we do have this job available and it took it took me kind of a twenty four hours to kind of I didn't say yes straight away because I was going to think I really take less money, less hours? Is Am I going to really, you know, like ruin, you know, the idea of what I thought I wanted? Yeah, wrong. Story Short, I took the job and and that's kind of what kick started off, doing all the social media and stuff. In you're working somewhere and you're framing a lot of other people's artwork, other artists, people that like to buy our how you suddenly realize, Oh my God, I'm just not making I'm not I'm not putting in the right amount of work in the right place. I'm working. It feels like I'm working hard, but I'm not doing it on what I love. I'm doing it on the day job type thing. Yeah, so, yeah, well, I thought right, need to change some things. I think as well, like if you're working for someone else, I mean it kind of being told what to do and you kind of you kind of got limited freedom avenue where is if you are so you do your own thing with yourself. You can kind of create what you want, do what you want. Yeah, definitely, and I think if you are, if you are going from a point where you've worked for someone for a long time and then you're working for yourself, you always need like like a some time to kind of d like, I can't think of what to call it, but almost like to compress, like get your head out of the kind of I'm working for someone else space. You're so used to being given, you know, told what to do. They and yeah, are you working for yourself? There isn't who in telling you what to do. Yeah, you're for lot. Yeah, you have to go in to do it yourself. You have to. You have to work out what you need to do as well, which I think sometimes can be difficult to kind of figure out, especially if you're just starting out. HMM, yeah, no, exactly, I think as well. I in society, you know, you see everyone working for companies, doing jobs, you know, working for people, and I think we're kind of hardwired in our minds to like be told what to do, like in school, you know, you told what to do for many years for education and parents. Yeah, yeah, I think, as someone I heard on a podcast, they said it's something to do with tribes, like, you know, going about years and years ago being told what to do and you know, so fin this why there's a small percentage of people who are successful, you know, work themselves and stuff, because there's a lot of risks and they involved in as a lot of gamble and it's on. It's scary to go into the unknown. It's a lot Spfer to work for someone else and just coast along. I mean, everyone's got to start somewhere. I don't know. You know, it's yeah, we are definitely hard wired to kind of literally go find a job and you sit in school. Don't use for your wold of your school life, which is quite literally from about the age of four, isn't it? When you're the opposite of being told what to do is sit down. You just want to go and explore everything. You are, yeah, actually taught. You sit down and listen and do it. Is You told you want? Yeah, yeah, so that's like that's huge, is it? To get out of that and then kind of come out of school, go to college, do the same thing, then go work and do the same thing, or just go out of school and go to work and doing exactly what you've been told. So if you're something that's kind of at that point and you've got you've got out...

...of that kind of area and you want to start up on your own, that's hugely daunting. That's yeah, completely, that will be completely alien to you. Yeah, see, yeah, exactly do. That is is quite scary and I totally understand anybody that was kind of thinking about it but just didn't have the kind of confidence to just go for it. But one thing I will say. If you do put yourself in a situation where you need to survive, you will look like, yeah, kind of born to survive, like that's like just our nature in general. So if you end up in a situation where you have to make money to survive, you'll find a way of doing it. Yeah, now, completely I think it's Instincto, isn't it? As that kind of definitely instinctive. Yeah, I think. I don't think people give them credit, give themselves credit for being able to do that. Like it's just as you know, like if you didn't have a job and you've now got one, you did what you needed to do to survive. You found a job and it's not easy, that easy to find jobs. So MM. If you put yourself in another situation where you don't have a job that you want to do it by yourself, you will be able to do it there. You'll find a way of doing it. HMM. I think it's how you like react as well with it. I mean, I've been a self situations where I'm not hard work or, you know, I'm sure yourself as well, and I think it's easy to like, think, are like sure, that like and I think if you kind of thing negatively and you worry, you'll attract that and you'll just stay in that circle going around, whereas if you kind of thing, okay, so this is my situation, what do I need to do? It's truly when you kind of I think that's being scared, isn't it? When you end up ration that you're not sure how to handle, then you then kind of working with fear and at that point is quite important to kind of refocus. It's just another problem. So if you look at it just like another problem, without the kind of fear surrounding it, it's just something else you've got to work out. I think people kind of brick wall when they come up against fear. And Yeah, it's definitely scary, but as long as you kind of refocus and just start thinking instead of Oh my God, what am I going to do, just I know there's a way that I can work this out and then kind of move forward with your thoughts on that level rather than Oh my God, what we're going to do? Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, I think like I think as well, it's it's being patient asn't I think definitely. It's funny. Sometimes there are points when you kind of think you get you do get kind of frustrated and you think, okay, so nothing seems to be moving or or sometimes it might be a bit stagnant, but then you've got to keep yourself moving and yourself motivated. I think when I look back and look back at the Times where I think that I've been the most frustrated, I think probably I'll probably wasn't putting enough effort in during those periods, which is why I was seeing kind of not as much would growth as I would have liked. Yeah, but you can. I mean you've got to be really honest with yourself, and I'm kind of look a look at like how much work you're putting into something and be really hard on yourself about. You know, is it enough? Exactly? I think I ought. Today I was listening to like what kind of maybe want to do podcast is a kind of like that guy called Joe Rogan. Okay, not not here, Tom, Joe Rogan podcast. He he presented a TV show years ago called fear factor. Yeah, he's that host of that and now he commentates on UFC and he's he's quite a motivational guy and he's got a podcast now and it's one of the biggest podcasts on Youtube online. He's it. I'm I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I started listening to him and he's he's done like as a near one thoste...

...hundred episodes now and I have to check them out and he's at all kinds of people and I was listening to one of his talks today and he was saying that when he started out doing his podcast, he had two hundred, you, two hundred listeners, of two hundred views, and he was like, you know, it's terrible, but he was like you know, you learn free mistakes, you know, you grow it. And he said it's not about how many people listen, it's about who listens. Yeah, definitely, and he said, you might have, out of those two hundred people, one person who is important or you know is in that line of work talking about or someone who actually relates to it. You know, it's so I yeah, I think you kind of made me like mov it's like, you know, do this and reach out to people on Linkedin like I do review. Yeah, I think the kind of reaching it up and carry as well. So definitely, and kind of reaching out to people were kind of find as well. That I know, like there's there's this kind of whole emphasis on kind of growing your social media channels and stuff like that and having these listeners on podcasts and stuff. It. It's important. Yeah, but meeting people through doing podcasts and stuff and, like I said, doing meeting people through doing the events and stuff like that. That's been so helpful. I mean for like kind of personal growth, the people you meet and the people you talk to. You you'll get something out of there, even if, yeah, kind of you know, starts you in the face recognizable at the right at the beginning. I think we're quite social. People have very, very social even if they're quiet, they're really social. So if that's always good, and I think some of us can kind of get into our heads that work is all work and it has a kind of be boring and it doesn't. It can't be fun. And if trying to people I enjoy so much is yeah, I feel like it gives you life, doesn't it? It kind of, yeah, makes you feel alive, it makes you kind of talking someone makes you feel like you're doing something real. MMM, and it's not all in your heads. Is Yeah, yeah, he's sayings. Yeah, it kind of when you meet people, you can relate to them, and I think we're social beings on where and we need social interaction and when you speak to people, you you can relate to them a kind of makes you feel normal a bit. If you go and only talk to someone, you go, Oh, yeah, I'm going for that as well. Okay, so it's okay, it is and there are so many people that do that on a day basis. I like it must happen millions of time per day that people kind of think, oh my God, there's someone else going through the same thing and then just feel a little bit happier. HMM, they're not alone, which is like I think we you know, we might be losing a little bit. So like hence my absolutely love the podcast and kind of connecting with people and stuff, because if you're walking about or you're doing your job or your if you're not customer facing, you Miss People entirely. Oh, yeah, completely. Yeah, it's like I've had jobs where where I would not see it one person all day. Yeah, my kind of a screen or a phone or something like that, you just wouldn't have that kind of conversation or and that definitely isn't me. I don't think I'd be able to kind of ever go back to these something like that. Yeah, now, I completely agree. I mean I think as well. It's it's important to meet New People as well. I find so in some way. I mean I are words and in the hotel words and in the kitchen itself it was like a long galley kitchen and there's no windows and no clocks prison them. Yeah, and yeah, you go in and you it'd be like dark and you go to work and you finishing it'll be like dark and you just lose track of time and it's a weird feeling and I just I know, I just blot, I want to talk someone, you know, just feel normal. It's so true. Are you laughing? About. It's so, so true. You kind of it makes your entire reality kind of twist. You kind of forget that you've got a live. It's you're supposed to be living it and you're not. You're just going going in, like you said, you're going in when it's dark and you're coming out...

...when it's dark. HMM, there's like there's no life, there no unless you kind of connect with people or or have something else that you're passionate about. There's then no kind of life force behind anything. Yeah, exactly. But oftenk like people, you know, like in life, you know, people got to work, people, bills, families. I think that sometimes you can just be almost unaware of what they're doing. They're just on the hamster will. That harms the will and they're just not thinking of anything else. But I'm going to work getting paid. Can I'm going to work into can get paid. Yeah, days like and like I can understand that. That's like, yeah, quite happy to do that. Yeah, and if they're happy, that's all that really matters. But yeah, totally relate to being on that kind of helps to wheel and having the idea, like when I'm like I mentioned it about moving back from man jest. The kind of mindset I was in was make money, paper house, which, yeah, that kind of stereotypical idea of growing up. Yeah, you know, and having your life thoughted is that, you know, you have a fulltime job, you have a house, you know, you're paying your mortgage and stuff, and actually neither of those things may be happy at thoughts. Yeah, I'm changing my life, yeah, but it is it's very difficult to kind of understand that. You know, maybe that the stereotype just isn't for you. HMM. It's just I know it's kind of that thing that people think is really normal and he's going to make you happy, but if you're not the maybe that's just not for you. HMM. Yeah, I mean I've I've done like lost different jobs and I'm I think I'll be, because now I want to do different things. That you can kind of feel like a resistance and you know, deep down, don't you feel that this is a me starting? Sometimes you really good at ignoring it, though, right. Yeah, you can push it aside for a while and it comes back. Yeah, and it kind of manifests in different ways as well. But sometimes you don't even realize that, like the reason you're unhappy is because if you're doing the wrong thing or the the wrong life choice is I think humans are very good kind of disguising whatever is making them unhappy, even to the point where they just don't know what it is. Yeah, until it's just like a big ball of string and you just like you've created that ball of string and now you've got to own tangler. And whereas my policy would be just chuck it away and do something. Yeah, yeah, but I think you know you got to do. You got to do what you got to do at the time, jummy, and then if you can work towards something while you're doing what you've got to do, survive. L Yeah, there's everybody's life is really different. There isn't any two people that are exactly the same. No one way he's going to be perfect for another person. So yeah, it would be kind of silly to kind of be like, yeah, you can just do whatever you want to do. There's a there's always things. They're going to make it very difficult for you to go and do that. Yeah, but if you can start with with something small and then work from there, hmm, I think it just it just gives you enough to be able to kind of keep focused and positive, yeah, about your situation, because even if it's if it's not the best situation for you, but doing something to sort out then that that will just kind of breed more positivity. Yeah, completely. It's just those small steps, isn't it? It's taking the small steps. You know, small steps are better than those steps. Yeah, definitely, and I know like the kind of okay, big steps are amazing, I but you know, they they generally they're over as fast as a sore steps. Yeah, yes, you know, like it's it's all steps are great that you know, they do. It's great to have a goal and stuff and have that big step, but it's like with my artwork. It's really weird and it's something I didn't come across until like very recently really, is that I could when I finished like a big project, I kind of feel a bit lost. Yeah, you know, it's...

...weird. And it wasn't until I think I'd watched something that Gary v'd done and and he'd done it about being in love with his process, which was weird because then I thought that's, Oh my God, that's that's why I feel that way after finishing a project. It's not that, like you know, like I'm totally and naturally in love with the end piece because, being an artist, you've never are really sweet so long doing something. You think God, change that, I'm but but sometimes you can't. You just physically can't do it. So, yeah, it's the process, like I love having a love talking to somebody, especially with commissions. I get to chat away to somebody about their ideas and what they'd love and kind of things that are coming out of their head and then I get to put them all together, do some sketches, like work out where they want staff, send them back, have more chats and put it all together with carbon and then have a finch project. It's like that whole the whole thing. I love all of that. Yeah, and then when it's done, it's like it's actually finished and then it goes away. So that actual end product from like the happiness, like if there's a little happiness skill to each part of it, but end products, like the tiny bit of happiness. HMM. The whole process is like just ridiculously enjoyable for me. Yeah, lost that's what it's all abouys, and it's about that process and as about all of those bits added together, not just the final product, funnel end resort I did. I think people are way more like that then the society has kind of grasped at. theyment. I think there are far more people out there they're actually enjoying their the kind of always about the chase of that job or getting to that point where they can apply for that for the job that they've always wanted. I don't think like the actual point where they're like yes, you've got the job. That kind of happiness last for as long as the one where they are actually going towards it last for yeah, now concluding. So it's like I wonder whether that's why Gary v's got that but really big goal, but of like owning. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, because, you know, either get there and die or die before he gets yeah, exactly. It's that chase, isn't it? That grind towards it. It's that. Yeah, I'm just like hundred percent, because he absolutely loves that process. You just got a goal there that will keep that process for quite a while. Yeah, yeah, he's pretty he's quite an amazing guy, like he's some pretty welcome soul, doesn't it? Yeah, I mean he does. I think he's done really well because he's totally relatable. I think people, yeah, threatened by him. He doesn't it, doesn't really kind of survey stuff in a way that you wouldn't understand it. Everything he comes up with. He's fairly simple. Yeah, he's got no filter as well. He just doesn't care any just he's just himself. He's just there's no filter. They like. I saw clipping in a few seen it and I know he's quite quite controversial because he swears a lot and I know a lot of people that don't like that and they disagree with that approach or swear quite a lot. I'm doing really well at them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, says same here actually. Yeah, but he swears a lot and he us in a classroom, I think, and this woman was interviewing him. She liked, why do you curse so much? And he's she she would like, you curse around your kids and he's like yeah, he's like yeah, yeah, fuck, yeah, and this woman was like she just can't believe it, but he was like well, you know, just the way it is. You know it is. Yeah, I think people do don't give kids credit, do they? It's like you can you don't need it out, not swear in front of them. You just need to tell them and teach them when it's appropriate. Yeah, it's like they get way more out of you know they're going to be caught in a situation. Everyone knows a kid. My kids have done it when they've been really little and said like the B Word or the eff word when they're tiny and they don't know what it means, and I think they like in front of somebody else. Yeah, I say, but it might have been really thinking about it and taught them, you know, when they caught me doing or I've done it in front of them. said it's not great word to use. People find it quite offensive, but you can use it appropriately, and I didn't appropriately...

...then, but I am at home. Yeah, it's outside. Then maybe they would have understood. That is you know, like there are times when you can use it and then I time when you don't use it. Yeah, I think there's definitely a time and place with a I don't like it if I go to a restaurant or if I'm out somewhere and someone's cursing every five seconds about stuff like you know, and it's not neither do you L or there's a time and place, I think, and I think it can be quite motivating as well. Like I did an army course, like a look at life army course with college, and we had to run around and do lots of physical exercise and it's really hard and this like soldier was like, Oh, I'll stop ff and about and just cut on, and something kind of clicked and I was you know, if you just said I'll just crack on, it's not the same. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys quite weirdly creative swhere's, ironically, yeah, they do kind of create an atmosphere. Where do you know? Depending on time, really great brilliant atmosphere if you put them in at the wrong time. Yeah, there's definitely a place of the time for them. Isn't that? But I quite a lot probably do. It depends. I think he's he hung around with anyhow and if you fit, I think he's fish a lot of the times. I think. I think you feel passionate about something as well. Why? I tend to swear I feel passionate about something, swear. Yeah, I guess probably like Gary Be Does it look? Because he's incredibly passionate about we to books about by you and he does drop the fbon quite a lot. Yeah, yeah, thats like going on. Yeah, but I with like with your podcast. What was it you've spoken about? What is it that you farm put out with the food that you've done? Well, yeah, I've really I needed a couple so far. But yeah, I was in two minds. What, what on Earth would I talk about? You there's this weird but you go through and you're like, well, what the hell would people want to listen to me talk? You know, you're like what information can I possibly give? It's going to be beneficial, beneficial to anybody. So when I first started it, I kind of wanted to go into the carbon fiber thing and do hints and tips on that. So, like the first one was how I got started. It's so like kind of explaining a little bit about the process because I know it's new and I know no one really knows anything about it. And then the second one was with my dad's and how he got started, because he's really industry then. So good dad did. I think when he came out school he worked for he worked for the Water Board at the time, planting trees. I think he did for about nine months and then he went straight into fiberglass manufacturing. So yeah, so he's quite literally been using the same materials and processes since he was, I think, seventeen, eighteen. Well, yeah, I know. So that's that's literally all he's done like his entire life, and there's several jobs he absolutely hated. Yeah, not, you didn't enjoy a little bit. So it's great to get his perspective from it. But then I kind of got stuck. I just thought, you know, like a lot of people follow my social media because of the artwork. So I was then really kind of worried about doing a podcast that would just focus on carbon fiber m because not everybody is going to be kind of into that expect aspect entirely. So I tell it's kind of I think, kind of grown into like the journey. So it's like a vocal instagram page. Yeah, it can't make sense. Yeah, of course, but it's quite good. I know. I'd know as well. A lot of followers are into cars as well. So we know with me doing events, especially at Super Car events, it ties in quite nicely with what people are actually going to want to listen to. Yeah, it's Okly, HMM. I mean I've never really you know, I'm quite new to look on fiber and carbon fibert and I only discover...

...this piece of all this gallery. It's an some pad stone. You've been to post all, Galian pad style. I don't know what the piece of one is called or who made it. ACORN GARY in Post Day, I think there is one. Yeah, I'm pretty balest is in the Ekon gallery, but I don't know the name of the galary is. But they they have a piece of carbon fiber and I looked at that. I was like that starts some what I've never seen before, you know, and it's quite unique and it's quite different and it's specialized and it's quite different into like a don't relieves in photos on instagram and stuff like that. Is the way they photograph and the way they look in real life is so different. MMM, like it's really hard to capture. Is it because the light and the reflection and all of these DI is? I guess because that kind of moves, doesn't it? So you're were walking around the piece. HMM, the weave in the kind of carbon fiber moves almost so you get like it's just a quality you can't capture on the camera. MMM, if I difficult kind of to kind of relay via a pictures and social media. Now I find it, find a fascinating. I think it's really good. Mean, I've got that passionate and you know, it's something you enjoy doing. And podcast as well, because now I can talk to people about it. Like my family won't talk to me about carver fiber anymore. So bored of here we go on? Not. I think there's always be someone out there who will take interest in it, you know, like someone's open minded and they have time to listen and you know they'll find it interesting, you know, listening about things I want not no idea about. Yeah, definitely know there's going to be people that they're just not into it. That's cool too, but it's really nice to find people that like, are quite genuinely happy. Little thing like that. I like, I love it. It's like if if they if there was like no social media or anything like that, like I wouldn't have met all those people that genuinely that into it and and like, you know, made friends with and had great conversations with this it's a huge change part of my life now. Yeah, I just wouldn't be about it. I'd be getted if it went away. Yeah, I see. I think, like social media and stuffer, it's really grown massively recently, in the past four years, and I think especially like instagram and I think linkedin now. I never used to use linkedin thing, got creating one. Just look to look for jobs. Yeah, and then I heard Guy v saying so much traffic on it now and a lot more people using it. And you know, it's like how we met and how I put up post on there about because go with eaded a post saying two thousand and twenty helped you other out, basically, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, definitely. And I think it's weird, isn't it, because I guess like it's almost not cool to ask, yeah, help, you know, and I think kind of with that pasty kind of gave everybody almost permission to kind of ask. Yeah, and yeah, it was really good because obviously everybody stucks something, you know, you have like bloody hundreds didn't even messages. Yeah, left on there saying I'm good at this, if anyone needs help doing this, and it's weird, like I think generally people are quite nice and they do you want to help. HMM. But the chances that we are confident enough to kind of ask for that. Yeah, happened, is it? It's a big jump, isn't it? Yeah, it is. Yeah, I can take the understand it. It's like I don't think I've been like particularly good at being like, in fact, I know I'm terrible. Would ask you for I'm Gary. Yeah, yeah, I think sometimes we can lie, be quiet, stubborn in ourselves and just blpens. Okay, you know I can do this and sometimes, you know, you need to us about help or network of people, don't you to? Yeah, yeah, like, literally, coming from from someone that I very rarely ask for, how Ya do it? I was doing it wrong. Don't do but it's definitely nice...

...to you know, built to clear people in the same wavelength and talk about things, and I think it's it's all part of it, isn't it? It's about you know some people and being able to give something back and put something out there that others can relate to and take from. Yeah, definitely it's. So it's good to do it as well. I'm sure it's like good for the soul, just like, you know, give them back in like I said, it talking to people's brilliant. Everybody old people more. Yeah, I think like so. So would you about? But what platforms would you like recommend using for like the way that you do? You say instagram works. You first. Yeah, instagrams good, but the I think the reason why I do quite well on Instagram is because I've been quite lucky in that. There have been a couple of people that have posted on their instagrams. So leny Eben works for urban automotive and he had piece of my work done and he posted it on his instagram. So he's like yeah, like a super car personality. Of course he posted it and my dms went absolutely bonkers. Yeah, they're like I got quite a big following based off of that and then and then I did the Commission for London Norris and yeah, so it's like like he I think, like he posted it and it got I mean I literally did not believe that it was London Iris until he posted it on his instagram. Wow, I know. Yeah, like literally couldn't believe it, but that was crazy. And then I got a load of followers from that tea. So you know, that's and that that was from being down at Goodwood, the sort of speed. So yeah, I guess it's difficult to kind of know what to say in that respect. There certain things that happened. We're just because I'm kind of chatty and I like I'll talk to most and you know, they are like complete luck and chance and, you know, just being out there and stuff. It's like they could have easily just as easily have not happened. I mean instagrams great because it's it's images and obviously everything I do there images, so it's great. Works way better than actually having a portfolio and getting people to go to that portfolio on some website. Everybody's already on it. Yeah, but I use twitter and Linkedin as well. I I've got tick tock as well. Yeah, I've recently got a profile on that. I've thought a few videos. We'll just going to be talking about a lot different things and motivation and stuff. But it's quite a lot happening online. It's just takes a lot to get your head around how to use it. Yeah, it is. It is funny. It's your while. Yeah, it's there's a lot you can kind of believe. There's no clock on it as well, so when you're on it you can flix three videos and you've got no idea how long you've been on it for. Yeah, it you you will, I guarantee, if you haven't already, you will lose an hour on it. Yeah, it's quite scary because there's so many random videos. You kind of become a mercy or it's actually be like what's that one like? Man, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's quite it's quite funny. At first I was like wow, it's going but then, yeah, it quickly is into like a hour long addiction. Really bad, because you haven't actually posted anything on it, but hals trend an hour on. Yeah, it's Gonnat's post something for a few minutes, but you just spent an hour watching random videos of line. I'll get ill. That's good. You're supposed to use it, are you? Is like this? I mean there's probably no point in actually posting stuff on it if you're just not going to use it like you're supposed to be using it. Yeah, for that stays out. But linkedin, I'm still getting the hang off. I think it's that one that was taken me longer than any of the others to get my head around. I have facebook...

...as well. Yeah, but the Linkedin is the one that's taking me a bit longer to get my head around. Yeah, this is different. I've not a great type of premium account, but there are different accounts for different yeah, use. Yeah, but I think you have to just depends what you're if you think it's a situation is now, I could totally see it, like if you if like recruiting and stuff like that, I think it would be an awesome idea to get a premium account. I don't know whether it's the best idea for me, M yet. Yeah, yeah, I mean for me from saying from like a semi figured out point of view. HMM, not, funny, figured out at all yet. Yeah, just take time these these platforms, like yeah, definitely, and I think I'm Linkedin is definitely one of those ones where I feel quite comfortable checking to people on instagram. M. I think, because linkedin comes across as like any business APP. Yeah, or my I know it's like originally was like a recruiting job search typeot hm, but it's still comes across as a very kind of business to business up. Yeah, and I'm I'm yeah, like, I guess I'm not. I don't really see myself like that. That kind of situation almost makes me feel kind of uncomfortable because it's just not when I'm used to like where I like instagram is, because it's all just it's Tamer always. Yeah, it's like more casual. I mean you can quite literally the and somebody and like you don't have to worry too much if you've made a spellingstay. I feel like if you did it on Linkedin they'd kill you. Yeah, yeah, sorry, you've been bunned, because really fun for your spelling mistake. Yeah, because, as the PREQUEL's profiles and some sometimes it's like chief executive business coach, something more. Shall I apply? So I just like it and just leave it, or like now I'm too scared to going out on it. Yeah, I'm just like it. I might apply, just leave a few days, but I think that's that's like the that's the fear, though, isn't it that again? I was talking about that alien. Yeah, I'm doing it because you've got this kind of fear about how they're going to judge you. Yeah, yeah, that's weird to get your head round, but it's it's weird because I thought that wasn't that bothered about it, and I don't know, the social networking site. I'm not that bothered about weird thinked in like it's still there. Clearly, yeah, it's. I think it's just a process and the more you the more you do it, the you come like, I know, stuff like qualified as like a life coach recently and put videos out there on my instagram and stuff for my stories, and sometimes I'd have my camera up and I'd be like going to do a video and I'd like chicken out and yeah, and then sometimes I do a video for half an hour a recorder and then I'd deletels. I was tellble and quite critical of aseelf. Sometimes, I think, yeah, yeah, I think by that's like friendly enough. One of I think one of the reason why take is, yeah, because there are so many people out there literally just filming themselves like like a minute of their entire you know, well, even fifteen day and they've not put a full face of makeup on, they've not record it fifty times. Some of them are crying, laughing. So, you know, like they were in all different situations and they're more yeah, I generally think like it's actually quite nice app it's kind of displaying people as they are, as they really are. Yeah, it's very positive and it's kind of it. It's like, you know, I am what I am. You know, it's very natural, isn't that? I think? Yeah, and I think that's great. I mean there's a whole lot about social media being terrible for young people, but...

I think if they can see kind of, you know, so many people just being on it, is like that's great, really, it's that's got to be yeah, right, you can see that the people who do it happy what they're doing and they're not worried about being judge enough, and that's a hard that can be a hard thing to like like often, you know, just comfortable with just not thinking about what other people think of you and worrying about that in just doing it. Yeah, that's like that can be like yeah, yeah, yeah, loads of people I know still struggle with that kind of thing. So yeah, it's it's not something I've have figured out that like really like really, really young or anything like that. So it's that's underding one. Yeah, that's when you can go to chip away. Think, yeah, because I think like, I mean, I'm a perfectionist to myself, so sometimes I want to get things right and it just not how it works. You know, to me and you just go. You just got to accept that you know you're going to fell and things that you know. You know it's got to accepted. Definitely there's that's so weird. It is, weirdly, a lesson that I learned quite early on, because I'm dissay thing. So like, like literally every sentence I've ever written as got a stake. It was quite young when I figured out that, Oh, you know, there's a red mark and everything I do, which is weird, isn't it? Because you were, you know, like you just naturally assume that being dissected would be a total discideah, did, but it is, you know, like I was creative and in a much different way, which now was doing, you know, quite well. So definitely for me it's and ended up being an advantage. But Yeah, mistakes not always a bad thing. Yeah, it's sometimes they can, you know, really end up being the best thing. Yeah, not a lot. And if not, he cares, just start again. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I agree. You you can. It's so frustrating. The worst bit of making mistake is the fact that it's frustrating and having to get over that frustration. It's I've worked on pieces for like a full week. I need to find out that that it's cracked. whist it's process. Yeah, which sucks because, like if it's a really big crack, there's nothing you can do about it. It's just ruined all that time into it and then that could happen. It sucks, but it's just time. It's literally like nothing else has happened, nothing technically, but yeah, happened. It's just very frustrating but, like you know, I can still do it again. They like there's nothing, there's nothing other than the fact that you've lost a little bit of time and now you're behind schedule. It's going to be next of a three months or something. Yeah, we're just make sure you're in a lot nice, quiet place where there no one. Yeah, yeah, and I relax and I but, yeah, mistakes suck, but maybe we are a life, isn't it? Definitely, I think like we're all really scared of making mistakes, aren't we? And the decisionmaking as are noticed, like this has come up like a couple of times recently. I've told her a few friends this, but opinions, like when I'm doing stuff, I tend to keep a lot of stuff myself when you recently started posting about what I'm actually going to do. Normally I just post, but yeah, yeah, so it's kind of weird because I started posting stuff about what I'm kind of working on and like really rough sketches and that kind of thing. But normally, I hope, yeah, I don't speak to a lot of people about what I'm going to do or kind of play around with ideas via talking to somebody or but I do do with opinions, because everybody has. Yeah, even if you don't want to know, it's not so freet scared of them. And like I think about things a lot and I found that if you...

...kind of try someone else's opinion on like an outfit, like literally like borrowing somebody else's clothes and try and think about it, in that scenario, it doesn't then matter if you're not going to use it. Yeah, it's like if you try, if your best mate said do this, so you think of it as an item of clothing, you try it on, it doesn't fit, so you give them. There's no there's no reason that you have to stick with that opinion or carry it through or you know, you can literally just think about it see if it bitch you. If it doesn't, then check it away. Yeah, if it's really crap opinion, they don't pass them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I think you know, it's completely Brian, what you're saying, and I think if someone has an opinion, you know try out what they've said. If it's some word, then you know, you do something else. Yeah, yeah, you'll know if it's going to work for you or not. You just got, you know, like chuck it around your head for a couple of hours and and then having like making decisions. Is Funny because you can make them. They're not right, then money can quite that, you can change. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, friend of mine was saying, I'm thinking about moving away for a bit. Yeah, do it if you want. WHO's like, I don't know whether it's right. That's like, well, you can meet back if you don't have to stay that because you decided to go. She's like, yeah, I suppose, and which she just not thought that she kind of had had not kind of process the fact that if she's not liking it, you can yeah, which I thought was like yeah, you can do that, which is the same with every decision, isn't it? If you have a made a decision. We're not sure about it, it doesn't matter. You can quite literally change yeah, now completely. Yeah, I know that's like very variables in that situation where you didn't know who you're going to annoy and stuff like that. But there's no point in continuing with the decision that you know is not right for you because it makes someone else happy. Yeah, exactly. So it's doing you, isn't it? It's doing you. Yeah, yeah, anybody that's kind of around you or that you keep around you or they're not going to want to see happy. Yes, I sometimes people can say, Oh, yeah, I do this job or do this and or not think the best thing is like when people are their opinion of a place and I say, oh no, don't go to that country as horrible. Limit Myself to not go there based on your experience, because that's your experience, that's how you think about it. Yeah, I'll go there. You might have a nice time. You might go to different part of wherever they went. You know, you got a different, different lends to it. So I think that's important. New Opinions as well, like you got to go find out for yourself, haven't you do? Yeah, we are also different. There's like to have the same experience as somebody else, you would have have to have lived their entire life exactly the way they have. Thats so the chances of you being able to have exactly the same opinion in detail would be like nonexistent, like literally there. I don't think there is a chance that I can. So you like it just there's just no way that that kind of opinion. Yeah, I would work. Darthin is interesting, I think you knows. I think people are interested, you know, because everyone's different and then makes you wonder why people think a certain where. You know, like, yeah, it's good to be boring as hell. Wouldn't it feel Abou if you are the same of it life fruit? Yeah, you imagine if everybody just agreed with clad other day. Yeah, it's good, tire Joe, goods, good joke, good thing. Yeah, what was that? You can't be sometimes.

It's sometimes. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty sick, but the knock got this podcasting of a now in ten minutes early are Oh my God, the way cool. Okay, have you everything you wanted from it from this podcast? Yeave, certainly. Yeah, I mean this is the first kind of proper kind of podcast I've done with someone. Yeah, if you like, with the anchor, and there's a there's a bit where you can kind of trim your episode too, so you can get rid of it. Is quite easy. You'll see when it comes up. You'll see, like I've got to update. Ohms, just come up with up dates. I think like this is quite a platform because I I'm researching, and I mean this is like recording now that I mean I'm researching in like ways of doing podcasts and which platform to use. Is quite a lot of complicated ways around it. Yeah, it's like you did before. This out really complicated, because I think a lot of them are. Yeah, definitely. Where is this? Like? I think mine's on seven different yeah, but that's just why of this. I haven't done anything other than do it or anchor. Yeah, that's quite good. Yeah, that's likes off. That's free, isn't it's simple. It's easy. Yeah, and you can stick out of it all right. Yeah, so that look that? Yeah, yeah, I've I haven't bother doing it in mind because they're just I don't want to put off the like a few listeners, but yeah, it's like it's probably it's it's not really about being well, no, it's about enjoying it and, given some put someone out there isn't at some people. Yeah, definitely, I think it kind of it helps, doesn't it? I think like when you look like I love all that. The all they're like the connection aspect of it. It's fun, it's different. I'm quite creative, so there's because there's like another great about that? Great for me because I can change things up. of It because I spend like quite a lot of time like sketching and doing bits and stuff. Is sometimes that can get kind of stagnant if you're in the same place do yeah, of course, because it's weirdly like uncreative to do the same things over and over again. So like went kind of nature would be to do different things all the time. So the fact that there's that kind of weather out there for creativity. Yeah, for me. But what I didn't realize until whatever, like Garry v's was to know whether it is in podcast or or what Youtube. But he was going on about, you know, like the kind of virtual reality in the Google and stuff like that, and the fact that people were literally really like saying like hey, Google, get me whatever. I'm certainly like if you're putting extreme content vias, so many social networks, platforms, but Gosh, Youtube, then your kind of your chances of coming up when people say get me so and so, it's good. Yeah, they like there's there's total method, there isn't there? Which, yeah, I didn't realize until kind of recently, like by the time like VR comes out in God knows where, can you imagine, like, if you're putting enough content out, how much of your content will be on the Internet? But yeah, it's quite scary for isn't it? Because it's already massive as it is, I think, especially with hashtags like on instagram and hashtags on the platforms. You put a Hashtag and sometimes, I'd know, I think you might say port happy and you look at the relevant hashtags and sometimes like one point six billion or one point something millie and you think what, it's just mad and you search the Hashtag and there you go, there's one point four million things related to that Hashtag. You know it's buff in the way it's going. Yeah, it's quite it's pretty amazing. Yeah, like really crazy. When I first started putting...

...all the social media together with carbon fiber are there was like like literally my url is carbon fire, and at k like was available literally like the it was no one out there with like even like the user names on. Yeah, they were. It was like there was no no one and taken them or anything. It's now if you look for any carbon fiber like url or like Instagram, handle there like yeah, isn't it isn't none that. I don't know what everyone's got cut favor. Yeah, it's it's pretty fascinating. Is Crazy. Yeah, it's like a growth in certain industries in the past kind of like even just five years incredible. I remember remember being a secondary school. I'd a Motoraila raiser flip phone and I remember, like this was before I don't know that apps off top of my head, that there's a lot of APPs that weren't around when I was at school, or same with you probably, and it was like because I said to my friend or, can you blue tooth me that song, and that was not how you sent things, you know, as a cross blue tooth. It's crazy, isn't it? Like I'm remember my face phone with like a Sony Ericson, had like Mpthree, you can play music. It was like the first one. Yeah, and that was when I got to call so weird that, although like, like everyone was a lot younger than me when I went to college. So this is like the second time. Like yeah, I remember when Christmas everyone got back to college after Christmas and I was like what did you go? Like I got an ipod. There was a little I pods the time, and then they plot. What did you get? As like I got, yeah, he just knew. Oh my God, I know. No, I didn't have hipod an. And but before that I remember having the early old school. I have an old school MP three player and got a Christmas and is black and it just you pulled the air the end off and as the USB stick and you download more, should say, blilely. But but I downloaded my music and then put onto the MPFA and onto the USB and there's there's like a volume button and a single play button and that was in a little tiny that was screen, a Kapagia screen. I think weird. I take your Je's like MES on so quickly. I can literally remember when, like many discs for well many, I'm the floppy disks for computers. Yeah, yeah, well, like many disc with like a little bit like floppy days, but they like for all right. Yeah, but that's still got comment. It still use. It goes on the beast with the CDs. He takes us. Yeah, takes a few CDs with them, takes a see little walk and CD play with him. So buddy, crazy, so crazy. It was just that it moves so quickly, doesn't it? Yeah, but like you look at you look at phones as well. You look at smartphones and you know what you can do and you know they getting slimmer, they get smart and faster. You know, yeah, that's weird. Is like the game. They really, really so, and they just like, oh now their books. I yeah, you could. They release them the rule of phone again, but it didn't as a touch screen. So it flips up and it's all touch screen. Yeah, that's weird. Right, like that's crazy, but there are probably for my eyesight, okay, you're really easy, like I need to get like a big can I see it? So I can't. That's wet the paint so much...

...all the day and then like by my eyesight is terrible. Yeah, you can even get like all they just says you're not calling you and things like that. And Yeah, I don't like. I probably looked into that. I might do it. I thing if this look over ways something, I think to sign some of the case something happens. I don't know. It's like, as far as I seen, they cut like the top layer of your like the clear layer of your nice, like the Lens. They back and then they fire a laser through your your people. I think I just wear glasses and past them for because they literally hold your eye open. You'll completely awake. Whiss they do it. It's like actual laser kind of burns the back of your eye. Jesus Right, okay, in their game. Yes, I had braces for freedom of years and that was enough and I had enough kicking to my teeth going up. I had added to operation. So I had my my canines were baby, like baby teeth. There was both taken out and then my duty started coming through and one of my nines are came come, was coming down at a funny angle and they got jammed in my gum. So I had to have an operation where they cut, you know, the roof of my mouth, my gum. You know, I was awake during all of this. So he gave me about probably forty, sort of forty injections and then I had to let it known and then he cut away and had to get a gold chain attached to the tooth and then when I had my braces tight and they've got brought the canine down into place. That sounds years ago, but awful, but it's fascinating what they can do. Is An yeah, that's that. It's pretty amazing, but like ridiculously, but that's before. Yeah, how's eighteen world a post probably cost about ten grand fold to have that done there. You know, it's Oh, yeah, it's really expensive. Yeah, my brother went through them, a whole kind of reconstructive see. Oh well, yeah, it's like yeah, yeah, he to have more like I can't remember what type of bone they put in, but it it's not is yeah, he went through a lot and I think it cost him. Yeah, like not far off that, if not more like knyear West with like not places in his in his mouth and stuff. Yeah, yeah, but it's kind of important. There isn't, because people like teataous think people it's like they do not for your confidence. I yeah, they definitely definitely one of these things people kind of worry about. Yeah, I think it's that's quite a big thing. You know, it's being a person. You know, how are you look in certain ways, isn't it? But I can it is on your face. Yeah, isn't not one of these things you can hid everything? Yeah, there's a lot happening that areas and they're like a lot of I've gone offing against Thefen, you know, is it's a put it's a very, very personal thing. You know someone has boytops or you know someone has something done that. You know, it's a personal thing. Yeah, I think Ye, massively, massively personal. I think like people get a bit caught up in whatever other people are doing and as it's like I kind of business. Really it's, you know, like to have an opinion on it is kind of for me. I feel like it's not my place to you have an opinion on it, but like you, I guess you kind of do sometimes, don't you write? Regardless of whether voice it or not, equal tend to have an opinion. But when I didn't, personally, it's yeah, it's not up to me. I think if people yeah to do stuff,...

...then they should go and do it. If they didn't like it or it was a mistake, like talking about area, it's like they can make mistakes just because it's documented or some you know. So, I see, you know, it's Bay stuck it on instagram. Doesn't mean like they aren't allowed to make mistakes or do something that you don't like. Yeah, of course they're. So I said, you know, like as long as I'm not hurting someone else, like yeah, anally. Yeah, like if you can just be a genuinely good person, then yeah, that's good, right. What you do over and above being just a genuinely good person is, yeah, to you, of course. And like you can't. You can't judge someone based on how they look, you know, and you know, everyone's different now once a personally on the day, you know. So, Oh God, yeah, we're people are so weird about like how you look. Is that? It is, like, I know, like I look quite young. So like especially, especially good kind of seven years ago. People have this way of talking to young people. It's like it's I don't know where there, whether it's an attitude, whether it's a particular tone, but like when they think that you're a lot younger than you are, you they have this way of talking to you and then and then they suddenly find out you're not as youngerous look and then they leave switch is it's really funny. Like I think, like if I was insecure about it, I might take it quite personally, but it's like it doesn't bother me at all. It's quite funny now. But yeah, I'm thirty seven, so I like, I like quite a bit younger than I actually are. So it's quite funny to kind of see people's reactual if they suddenly realize like yeah, all right, okay. I totally feel for young people they like like like, because I didn't, I don't think I necessarily noticed it when I was young that there's this kind of way people. Yeah, I mean I'm twenty five and I worked like costcality and restaurants and hotels and you know, I've experienced that my first share of being spoken to like crap by people. And you know, not everyone does. You remembers the point. You know, nine times out of time, members the public, okay, people, okay. Sometimes you get people who they're just tall down to or talk to you a certain way based on your a bay, I feel like by some union of the age, like like you don't know. Yeah, yeah, you did. It's weird. Like I said, it's really hard to explain, isn't it? You can't you can't definitely say, like I isn't the age. No, I won't do it. That's because I've literally, like I've been in situations right. I have literally like they've kind of talked to you in that tone and then, I don't know why, but like you get asked your age or something like that. Then you tell them, then they're totally change. I know it's got to see they at those points. Yeah, I'm not cittain, like every single nation has been like up, but but yeah, definitely situations where there is a specific tone used for. Yeah, I think it's like a book stigmas and I think it's like old on the job you do as well or something you're doing can be charged law. I went a job in to you once and the cars all you do live coaching them. Yeah, he's like you, but young for that on you and I was like yeah, like, I'm young, but there's different. If in life courag doesn't mean you know, you know, open gentleman, if you can relate to people in certain areas and things, it doesn't really matter your age. Yeah, it's very funny, isn't it? Like, even if you are a hundred and two, you've experienced your life. So it's but I guess that person is no more experience than you are to going to hmm, be, you know, like saying, like if they were coming up to you and saying, well, you know, you're twenty five and you haven't had much of life, so how can you coep somebody else is you know, you you can quite literally say, well, you've only yeah, you know, my God, you've obviously made it your business to kind of see through, you know, groups of behaviors and assume, I know, not think about life coaching. That's fine, you're going to, you know, that's your passion. So you've kind to immerse yourself in like kind of human patterns and human hearts and behavior patterns while people do things, and...

...the genuine interest in my people, and so you obviously have like a genuine interest at like a genuine interest in it and obvious, yeah, good at picking up on different things and whereas lots of people wouldn't, even if that you, like I said, there, yeah, three time amount of life that you've had. It's like all about that. Yeah, it's like interesting that passion isn't in that area. I mean I know some people who are like fifteen sixteen and they come across like looking someone who's like two five hundred and twenty eight. But their life experience show me, and I'm like Gosh, light so much more. Young people are much more mature, sure ahead of their years, quite fastening. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I've got a daughter and she's just in sixteen and she is far, far more emotionally intelligent than I was a age, you know, like and I'm sure that's because of the information that they are that is so accessible to them. They I mean I quite literally like some of the stuff that Gary v says about them, the Internet being so kind of like the school. The fact that's called is kind of a bit obsolete really. Just it's like a bit pretty or right, isn't? It's like everything else has moved on apart from school, which is doing the same thing. It's I mean she was saying stuff like that years ago, but it's really weird. There's no way, I don't think anyway on earth I would have said something like that to my parents when I was her age. Yeah, yeah, like I just would never have said something like that. It's either at all. But yeah, she's she's kind of like even before I heard it from from Gary v. She was kind of saying like the kind of they're teaching a stuff that like is never going to be appropriate because it's, you know, one we're not going to remember it where and when we're like a year down the line. Yeah, you back all the time, so why? Why would we? Yeah, it's it's one big system and I know that, you know, you need an education, you need to go to school and things like that. But I think documentary something on Youtube about it and they're saying that it's something you would do to like, you know how that prisoners and certain things. They they're sat down that told what to do and kind of forcewead information and it's it's the system around it. I think looking back and think of annails completely backwards. You know, it's it's not here's a bottles, we need to do learner. You know, that doesn't prepare for life. And I think school, it's like the know, the government's curriculum, and I I don't know who's who's in you know, who's in charge of it, but it needs to be looked at, I think, and it should be like, you know, should open up more about following your passion and dealing with certain situations and I think you know like it. Score doesn't pay for that. You gotta go through our kind of from parents perspective as well. You know, it's like it's kind of an equal not to Sendel old school. So your kind of handing your child over to your system but isn't really looking after them, which is you know, I'm paying a lot of money. It's you know, it's like we all pay for that, but you know, that's that's one of those things that we were taxed for. So we are paying for a lot of money for a system that does really work. It's only really focused on teaching one type of individual. I find it difficult, like I don't like it at all. It's this. Yeah, like I said it, it kind of is a system that worked, kind of...

...worked years and years ago. That hasn't changed and when technology has moved so quickly and continued to develop, school really hasn't kind of developed in the same or at the same speed, so much so that I took my daughter out. So she is home scored the last couple of years. Yeah, she's and she's doing great. She's a much much happier person then she was. Watched she was at school that should be doing. She's doing hers. He's at the moment. So we're there, but she's Super Smar Anyway. So, like he was quite an easy choice because, you know, she can kind of she's quite good at getting on with it herself rather than me having to sit over the top of her and watch her do it constantly or anything like that. She's quite good. So you know that that I'm not doing a lot in like, because people are just think I'm doing lots to help. She's decision was partly because she was so, you know, she was on the white kind of track focused, yes, anyway. But then but then my son as well, he has he's nine and he has an all right processing disorder and he's he also has got ypromability as well. It's just like he's fine. He literally he walks like but he's like he doesn't really everybody else has any cops guarantee the time. Brilliantly. Yeah, he's brilliant. He's so funny and he has this he's so on. It has this honesty, but it's brilliant, like yeah, currently we're going to your process where he's being, I guess, tested for autism spectrum conditions. Well, so he has this honesty and anybody with like kids or knows somebody with Ortis or totally get this. But he will be honest in the most inconvenient place. Is because no one tells us, from me growing up, that we really lose. Yeah, like we do white light inappropriate situations and no, no one actually teaches you. And as a parent you don't know that. You've talked yeah, well with him. No, that's not white lie. It's like middle middle of the shopping man, bigger and he's got like Yeah, volume, controll you. That's so. I'll Christ body here, but it's like it's fun. It's always fun. It's always makes so yeah, anyways, I would wish, you would wish for any other way. It's so funny. But as far as school goes, not funny at all. He's like last year he had like a horrendous type, really bad because he kind of in certain situations he won't understand things, so he will then struggle to process them. So he tend to go in like the really difficult to explain. But it's like he's brains wired differently from like a someone else's brain. So signal right to the wrong place and then he gets really confused. So then can't make sense out of it, which it ends up being a hill. I've had some kind of meltdown or, you know, just end up very distressed and he won't be able to do just because he won't be able to process all the information that's going in. So, yeah, he really struggled, but because they know when knew how to deal with it. So it is really difficult to get any kind of help with that. Like the school that he was aut just wasn't interested in listening to anything. And there although we're on the kind of journey to diagnosis, it literally has been about be getting into our second year now. So it takes forever. There's no like kind of diagnosis then help. It's like it just doesn't help that quickly at all. So, like he spent quite a lot of time being really, really misunderstood and being told that he was just misbehaving and that he was like just naughty child. So like, like it just is missing.

Masses and masses of children. The whole education system is just each other's one type of child. You know, we're different. We like we you know, like that's when thing to come out of humanities that we have all was so, so different and we just don't learn in the same way. Yeah, and schools just really fading. That particular area, which is supposed to be the air. Yeah, get up is that there's these big institutions that apparently for learning, they don't seem to be very good. Yeah, I mean I find that I know of people who, if had things going on at school and you know, mental health and things like. I use some on and this the school just focus on the probably not all schools, but some schools are just focus on results and targets and they haven't got time and they you know, if you kids just get labeled and then they just get kind of, you know, separated into a certain room and they don't have you know, the same the teachers. I think the teachers don't aren't trained in the area. Know, they don't they I think one meeting we had that I had about five teachers all in the same room and they all confessed that they had absolutely no idea what was going on. Is the first time in their connective teaching careers that they'd ever seen this. Yeah, you just I know, like he needs to go on address once. Yeah, I mean the teachers. A lot that trained and everything to they I'm got the training to work with people who are in that area, you know, like I think they've got the to work with with anyone apart from the one person that they are talked to train. Last yeah, teacher training. It really just caters for the one student that gets everything. That's that's pretty yeah, I's so I can. It is just that the one type and it's a there are good teachers, though. You had a bad you last year, but this year has been fantastic. The teacher he's got the moment is incredibly structured to the classrooms, really strectured. I think he says good morning to him every morning, say that there's something consistent, and then he also gives him kind of five minutes in the morning to guide to get his bits and pieces together, because he's, like I think you kind of yeah, anxiety. So my son can kind of get his little things together and everything's in place and he feels comfortable and then he can kind of get on with the day. Now those are un few things he's changed. But and then, like if there's trips and things like that, he just lets my son know everything was going to happen during these trips and he's mine, but touch would I not? He's he has been so happy this year, this academic year so far, like really happy. He's so, you know, like a complete three hundred and sixty from last year. So there are a few things, few very, very simple things. They're all free. The none of this cost any extra money. Just, yeah, bits of time and that was it. That's often miss important thing, isn't it? That's yeah, but that's like that's kind of huge, I think, if you're pretty if we're missing out kids in the society that we live in today because we don't have five minutes for them. You know, if it's not a cost the case of costing money like that's that's good. It's this empathy as well, isn't it? It's alving that empathy consideration and yeah, yeah, I do. You think massively that the this teacher in particular was was incredibly good at seeing it from, yeah, my son's points to be and I think that...

...probably has been like the factor in that, that he can kind of see and come to approach the situation from some point. It's putting himself in your some shoes, isn't it? Seeing the eyes for him and trying to understand the way that he thinks and behaves and understanding the way he is, rather than get frustrated. Why isn't listening? Why isn't why is he behaving this way and shuts in or because, you know, there are not person's not going to spond the way you want me to. I went for a job trial actually for school down down here in Cornwall and true special, specialized school for kids with, you know, autism. Meant me a mental health and stuff, and it was really quite amazing because it was basically kids can board there as well and kids go from all over the country kind over the name of it. But it's in a place called true and just specialist school and all the teachers, you know, the wall trained. It's really, really nice. You know these kids, you know they're doing science, you know, learn, learn the cric Lim and open. It's just separate from in that standard schools. Yeah, which means they won't have the basically boundary, particular band of boundaries. And Yeah, it's fine enough. The teachers understand, you know. And Yeah, so we can come out at from from kind of different angles. Yeah, that's really nice. And but ironically. I mean they're doing that because they're kind of, you know, there's a group of children that are kind of forcing them to have to do that. I think we should be like yeah, everybody, it's like focusing on the people are learning. I'm finding out how they live, when, like it's you know, the rest of the system should be taking yeah, it's. Yeah, it's taken. How well people learn that using their strengths and rather than just saying his book, learn it. You know this we need to do. And it's taken that time, isn't it? Yeah, if you're going to kind of say here's a big Lunit, there's now absolutely at AOL. Is there? You could quite yeah, that's like ninety kids sat watching their ipad because they've all got one, all the phone and like just logging to whatever actually they need to be. Can literally implement some kind of sign up register so that they've kind of blogged. Yeah, listening, but there's that, you know, like there's no real need for education. Yeah, well, a sort of exactly, but it's true. You know, there's a lot of money out there that goes into schools, and government could save quite a lot of money by picking a whole lot online and there's probably be after this podcast. You have a nature. I mean some one might point. Then Oh good, reeve snooze, knock the doors. I I've got as soon get something to eat. Yeah, I was just it's I think I'm just a card. Yeah, this is the only quiet place. Yeah, for men anyway. But the budge in the background now con God for that, like the whole punker. But no, okay, yeah, leave...

...me to it. And Yeah, no, no, very welcome. I mean, so your your podcast is the in your account on instagrams of carbon fiber podcast. Yeah, I think if you literally stick in carbon fiber into any of the podcast yeah, because you're instagrams COMBI fiber. And then you've got the comfile podcast. Yeah, none. Yeah, it's all. It's the same on all social media. Say, like if you want to find me on anything, will tag me on anything if you can. Quite little. Yeah, Nice, man. I mean mine one as well is a positivity. positivity on the score podcast and the like, on the recording hospital. Cool, but like, yeah, yeah, I just be able to add it and then it like notify when you posted or whatever. All the other day is like I usually post, like publish the night before or like twenty four hours before, you kind of and say that you haveished it on so some social media, because it doesn't go out like straight away, especially your first one like it. Like I think I was went to like that. Three days. Yeah, anything, which is weird, but now it's all right. It's like it seems to be in about. Yeah, it seems to get on. I think three, first, twelve. I think I've missed it quite late last night. I woke up and it was yeah, depends on your Internet as well. I mean I live in Cornwall, so you know, I couldn't get any far away from the good. Snap or take two weeks all I'll be on playstation with my friend, my friends download a game. He lives a Nottingham. It would downloaded. We've been two hours and I'm like, after a week on L seleven dollars, that game was all meant. But Um, the last been really great to meet you and connect with you and talk to it. You know, I'm very grateful and pumble. Yeah, that's like thank you so much for asking me. I'll learn. I will probably here, yeah, with you another one and I'll ask you lots of questions, but I think in like I could totally ask for your advice and stuff on. I guess I'm just try to think like creatively and stuff like that see what would work. Yeah, of course, I've dcast. Yeah, sure, thing. I mean, yeah, maybe, so, like people's perception of art and yeah, I don't know, I'll write it all down anyway because I forget stuff. So, yeah, it's write like a full on the script. Yeah, of course, I mean same here. I mean the thing is the first one. This is I mean it's quite good to free flow, I find, and talk quite different things. Yeah, it was. Well, you there's like segments that you can stick together. You can choose new episode and then so, like if you wanted to do an Intro, like I think mine's like bappened. Yeah, five podcast and then I introduced yeah, and then, yeah, I say something else as well. But you can, you can gorge your in tray all right, and just add it to the segment. So I've like I've got a couple of intros in my like library on it on anchor, and then it will just be like intro episode Nicarlinks it all of interts and yeah, and then out episode three, stuff like that. So you can quite literally have your body, your intro, and you're like goodbye, your whole episode. You could have me. I haven't done much yet. Yeah, go a lot to yea, but yeah, so you can chop it up and then stick you welcome and goodbye, so you don't have to have like all the bits where I like yeah, cool, well, yeah, thank you very much, and then, yeah, next time...

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