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Episode 86 · 2 years ago

The Parrsitivity Podcast #Episode 17 with Jordan Smith

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In today's Podcast I reconnect with a good friend of mine called Jordan Smith, Jordan is now in the process of following his passion for music. We talk about the current situation at the moment with covid-19, social media, relationship, music, passion, mindset, motivation, happiness, people, society. Check out Jordan Instagram @Jordan_james1994 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/the-parrsitivity-podcast/message

Hi, welcome to the positivity podcast. On today's episode, I have a friend Jordan Smith. He's somebody that I've known for many years. In his really good friend of mine. He's making his own music. He's an artist. He's been writing his own songs and he's in the process of making and album EP. So check out his content when he releases it and check out his profile. That I'll even my buyer of this podcast. Sit Back, relax and enjoy. Jordan. I don't good, good, yeah, yeah, Salm May, long time they see. Yeah, I from glass. Saw you in like rock city or somewhere, on a nightclub somewhere. Yeah, probably time. Nice men, but not appreciate you coming on the all good man, but sorry, calm. Yeah, from home. So, yeah, what was it you are you do for work in the minute, and that'll be finance and loans. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can imagine. Yes, it's bit of a crazy time in them, and it isn't it crazy? Well, you mean in terms of like your work, or just in general, like you know, you like life. There's what's going on, just like World War II. So yeah, it's just crazy, like people down every conversation on the phone for work anyway is literally about coronavirus. So it's, yeah, pretty crazy. Yeah, it's Pretty Mad. I mean I think, like I think I've alf spend like previously. Is like, you know, we don't use have as much dame time either. So I think that's a big shocker for you know, everybody. You know, we used to like going out, going to work, doing things. You used to us to go out and being able to do something to take your mind or things. For now you're at home. There's a lot of time to think and you know, obviously a lot of people are positive. I feel like the people out there who don't have that positive side, you know, with mental health issues, and they've got to stay in nither wallow on the fours, because they rely on doing things to keep the mind of the HMM right. And I write a lot music and stuff like that, but keeps yeah, no, I couldn't agree more and I think it's hard for the you know, as people out there who have got things going on, you've got, you know, mental with it, with a mental health and they used to going out and distract themselves and doing certain activities. I think, you know, the big ones at the gym isn't it as well. Yeah, I mean I'm the same boat as well. I mean I I used to do cross fit and they were still kind of doing classes and stuff, you know, whilst this was going off. And I can't you know that and that's like in classes roads people. And I was like no, no chance. Yeah, exactly. That's not turn to the gym like her, like two weeks posed players, because you just know it's going to happen. It's not worth that worry, is it? You know, you can go for a run around the block for a quick twenty minutes something. You don't need anxiety of going to the gym and thinking of I've I just touched that way and then you know, dearth else and you don't want to lie because obviously people don't wash the hands in the gym. Oh, yeah, like I've seen people after they gone to the toilet. I wash...

...the hands in the gym. Not following that person around. Yeah, you know he's not bench past for a while. Take some like detl whites with you or something. Yeah, exactly, a brand staying on the way. It's something like that. You know anything like that. There are going to your gym. May If they're doing that, JEM well, I'm not doing that. Yeah, it's just work out from home. Really. I think it's just like it's difficult. You know, once you get going and you're in that routine, you guess easier and I think are working out. I think any anything you do in life, if it's hard, then that's where that's where you grow, isn't it? Yeah, exactly, a lot of people and get through a last yeah, like it. How was me personally, because if under I'm just thinking all the time, I've got back into the obviously the music right as well. So that that helps about. He's put a lot of emotion into that. Yeah, now, if you've always done nut since I'm back, since I've known you, HMM, probably was. I was terrible about that and I didn't do it for ages and I started doing it again, singing. Got A new macphone on the way. Nice. Hopefully get it all thought and these of work on the productions time and yeah, here's something that's groin. It's really good. Yeah, it's a positive move because I've been talking about it the four years, like you know, hmm, like doing stuff like this, and I got into it and then started going to it again. Stout and now I'm just fully focused in on it and I've got a lot people to do music at work as well, like cal in bands, and they've all said almost of scored. So it's just about getting it done, having a product. Hmmns. Good Mother, are you? You'd to grow it on always. You're the best street two are. Yeah, and this positivity. I like what you're doing with it. No, not now. Really appreciate that. And you've been doing it for how long that? I did my first one a couple of months ago. At least. Bounce things at four months, three months, for months. Yeah, it's it. Do you know what it is? It is? You know, it's probably like you of your music. I think it's something you kind of have to do consistently. It's a bit like a bit of a muscles, bit like a muscle. It's if you don't do it for like a couple of weeks, it's a bit like, you know, hard get back on the saddle kind of thing. You don't do. Not to me, yeah, but completely understand. But it's just kind of knowing where to find people who want to be on it and it's like not not being afraid and kind of happened to go through the motions, if that makes sense, because starting, if starting anything there is scary. Yeah, it is. It's having the confidence that really as you couldn't do it. And then, well, most people thought in the back of the minders you could do it, and then someone could say, are you terrible? And then if someone says I could not get confident out. But it's all about continue with it no matter what anyone says. HMM, because practically he's perfect. Yeah, and I don't think I'm got famous when he was twenty nine or something like that, something to they, or twenty six, like something old anyway, older than what people are now getting famous. Oh yeah, and he was like a cool well, he wasn't, I think, like skin color for the cool dry the time. He wasn't Detroit, wasn't it as well? Yeah, exactly, and everyone just kept on like bullying him and tell them he's never going to make it because he's not right image. Then look at him now. Yeah, millions and millions later, and is no album as well. Yeah, so he's still doing it. For it that, you know, he didn't even look that old eye. He looks about shirty. He's, I hope, to look like when I'm a...

...yeah, at least tea. Yeah, yeah, we're still really well. Like I saw a documentary on Netflix about music. Comment what it's called, and they it was bod Dr Drey and Dr Dray said that somebody mentioned them and I'm to Dr Dre and said you need to check this guy out and he kind of had a meeting with him and he went back to his studio and Eminem had like is are I think it is, mixtape with him or something, and Dr Dre threw on that, you know, the reals, some shady he put on that that beat. An mm just started spitting bars and he was like, you know, Shit, I need to record this and he recorded it and he said I think he made an hour, but he made that song within like an hour to and then he was like no, I'm going to have to sign this guy's pretty amazing, but he kind of put Dr Drake kind of put his career on the line of the crew because a lot of people were saying don't you know, don't, don't do it. Yeah, exactly, and he's always made the decisions. One it like Oh yeah, into the scene and ever since he's just rose and raised and finding people nowadays. Well, he found. Was it hire more eminem like who brought Kendrick into the limelight? It was thin, it was Dr Dre, it was Dr Jokers. That was in the documentary. Yeah, yeah, and beat it on the done on the last. All it takes, isn't it? It's just being recognized and notice and it's key. You know, keep on, keep on doing whatever is you doing. I think before, well, maybe during that time. Can alone the island nice. Yeah, one of my favorite songs of Bel to it. But yeah, it's Kendrick, like the different music styles east done as well. I just think is really good, because he came in as a hard rapper and then the timper bottle flyer, was it? Yeah, yeah, fly and like that album was a bit different to what yours used to and then he brings out dumb, which is completely different. Yeah, I've got a lot of his albums on my I'm as music flow. When I'm driving, I put a players music and I like the style of his intros. His skates, do you know to me, and like the the Intros to his songs, like where it's just order audio die talking and then and then the song that goes into it. It just blends in so well with the music and it just sets like a vibe. It's like nothing else. Yeah, it's very, what's the word? Inspirational? Yeah, yeah, yeah, especially pimple water fly, because he's the same thing and a lot of songs I talking. But he says one part of it in one song beginning about being conflicted as an accession about being conflicted. It's like a if it's religious on that, but it's the album, because he always brings up that little longer. Yeah, very clever, people think. You know. Yeah, it's quite deep. You know, it's unwell to say, you know, to say where's come from in you know, like especially, you know, ethnic minorities and earth in America and how you know those areas, you know being in those areas. I mean, yeah, you know, please. And it's all about the grind as well. Like, HMM, I can imagine ten years ago he was in a place where he's thinking it is going to work, and then ten years in the future, HMM's worldwide, superky. But one person story who always that inspires me, as I sharing because, yeah, from going from the Safer Surfing to being the biggest selling artist in the world and everything he does get number one, Dass an albums in the top ten, all the songs in like yeah, he's got his own restaurant as well. I saw on the Internet. Thought since this crisis happened, he's paying his way. Is He's paying a hundred percent of his fans wages. I mean he's got the money to do it, yeah, but for not a lot. But yeah, he's taking care of his stuff. I don't...

...know where his West restaurant is. It's probably London somewhere, but now he's done well. Like you said, if you've got a dream and you've got passion and you've got this ambition and you know that that drive and that energy towards you know wherever your craft is. You know you need to listen to that and follow it. And it's not, you know, it's not something that's going to happen over night. Snow. You know, if you're lucky, you I mean it might. Yeah, well, sometimes you know it, but like when you work so hard towards something and then you are going to get recognized, I mean a hundred and something shows in the year before your yeah, I saw that old video and if you see none those sky and can he's with. Example, amazing what a video that was, and you like yeah, and I think that's what Nice Tame off of it. Yeah, well, they helped each old rock there's a future. Songs together often. Yeah, they did. Yeah, I remember doing quite a few times together, but, like rhymes, I don't think they recorded anything work together. Yeah, over, remember that. I remember like having a motorial, a flip flowing be like can you Bluetooth me that song? Yeah, the Tony Acts and Walkman lostly that was a phone that everyone had. I loved it. The St St cars cost more than the fucking phone. Yeah, now, and nowadays, to get a phone already was like two hundred gig and it's crazy to think I'm technology. Well, yeah, well, I mean, yeah, the world is advancing and technologies of Vunsing, like, you know, it's a fast I mean you think of you know, I said was on, but one was at school, you know, flip floor, flip phones with blue tooth. You know, there's no instagram really back then. There was no linkedin. I don't think there wasn't no years or my space, Bebo and MSN, messenger, pinches, all that back in the day and how it proceeded. I remember my space, like your favorite song. Yeah, but all you have your mates do like rhyand I'm season school. Yeah, they that the songs on the page. It's a very good music. You got found out and I think a lot of people use something I still fund out before I started doing it advert yeah, people do still use it. I saw there's an artist called Mr Traumatic. He put it. He puts his music on soundcloud. Chris Brands. Yeah, like there's a lot of really songs. I put some there. Well, I think is well, it's kind of organic traffic. You kind of not happen to promote it and pay to promote it. You can just upload something onto it and you get, you know, traffic and use on it, you know, organically, without aften having to invest money into it. Yeah, exactly, like you. You just put it on there and people from all over. That's kind of like YouTube. HMM. Obviously you put a video on Youtube and people all over watch it. Hopefully, anyway. Depends are HMM. Well, I think, like you know, it's important. Some people put content out there and I'll put loads and loads of content out where. Some people will kind of perfect it and kind of make it that, but it listen to listen to it or watch it and think, you know, this is pretty good and get in touch of somebody and they just, you know, by putting things out there and on the on the web, it's just open up, opens up loads of connections. Yeah, yeah, and there's a lot of new things now. You know that Linkedin. You said use that. Yeah, have you? If you use that?...

If you, if you looked it up at that much now? I haven't seen it that much ready used it, but I'd like to start using it. It's a good way to connect with people in the same area that you're in. Yeah, now completely. I mean I'd highly recommend it to anybody. Yeah, I think a few years ago it was just kind of like an APP or platform that you used to look for jobs. Since Microsoft purchased it, is kind of change a little bit and you can connect with people. You know, there's Hashtags, there is you can look for jobs, but it's you haven't got all that bs that you have with facebook or instagram. People are there to help you, people are there to connect with you. What it's all about is kind of it's quite a lot of yeah, a lot of people use it at the minute. Yes, it's a way to build relationship for it. Yeah, sir, it's not. Yeah, you want to build relationships all the time and if you're something, I can actually help you. HMM. You should always use that. HMM. There's a lot more like connectivity in the world. Obviously. Back when we were on like in school, you'd have to have you put ten pound on your phone or Christ Oh my God, I like do whatever you want. Yeah, it is insane. I mean I remember having a page go Sim card and I remember. I remember putting on ten pounds and it would go within like four days. If you went on to the web browser you'd've like four pounds credit left. Yeah, and I remember, like I was on over two. Mean if you if you run out of credit. I remember, was it ta text messages with Tenpenzich? I think it was. Yes, I remember if you run out of credit from over to you could borrow, borrow a pound. So you'd borrow a pound and they be like you need to pay back next week, and sometimes I wouldn't. I forget and I'd put fifteen pounds on my phone. I love like three pounds left, because I racked up a bill of like twelve pounds and and that used to was it bucking the Amazons used to be the go to was on the if the one got a phone call. that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, amazing, because I ever said that you'd made sure because you know it's a Webcam shot, especially to a girl. You do that Web gun shot, just like to see any way. But Josh, yeah, you go and then you'd be like, but well, you're gonna any phone calls on phone. Nowadays you can do that on you like, and I love that, like I love time with connectivity this, but there's also a downside to that, which is a lot of people like to spend time indoors now and not see each other, hmm, which is and I like that face to face contact, like seeing each other in person, saying I table, you know, going out for a drink. Yeah, sitting down talking, actually having a conversation, because it's only thing which can say over tech. And it's unfortunate because, like, we were brought up, go outdoors, play football, do that, and now used to love that and like you go, all right, we're going to be out of park at this time. If you didn't turn up at that time, then that's your own fault. M Yeah, because, like you didn't have any other way to connect to each other. You're knock on your meat door. It's really Quinn out. Yeah,...

...and nowadays it's like you can use the watch with your phone. A lot of kids and even like you know, play stations and computers everything, and that's boxes, everything building up. Feels like a lot of people are just concentrated on that, like staring at TV screen. HMM. And I get it, because it's like a real you. That not your reality. HMM. US dating about the same time. You do need that interaction. Yeah, but I completely agree and I think, as you know, like you said, when we used to go to the park and play football, like having a mobile phone as a luxury. I mean, I'm not every kid had a mobile phone, and I think if you did, you know it was like amazing. And I remember like one of our old friends who we play football, where you had like Sony a rooks and they had to speak as he plug into his phone and need blast up music and like and like now everyone's got a phone. I've I've been driving down the road and I've seen kids who look about ten years old. We've got an apple small phone or the Ron Dro on tick tock or snapchat and starbucks, like joking about and I'm lying. What is going on? Yeah, and the one for Christmases and new IPAD technology, which is good, like it's good that we've got that accessibility. Yes, and you know, when we used to go out and go down to the park and stuff, that we built up a lot of our sore with people skills as well. And Yeah, yeah, a lost social school should pick up from that, because you could just see what people are like in personal but nowadays is the last online where people are just going to Doy online m and you can't really pick up a personality from that. Yeah, you can have enough in the joke and you can be funny over message. I'm funny over message. I'll think I'm funny over message that I'm. There's just like a lot of we're so connected that were disconnected. Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, you don't have that time away from each other. You know, like back in the day you'd have a girlfriend in school or whatever, or even old people have a girlfriend and I won't be able to talk to him as more, which, Medea. I think it made relationships a lot better back in the day because you have so much talk about when you saw each other. Like relationships I've had, we text all the time, we see each other and then it's like what do we talk about? But it's life is unfortunately. But no, it's not a bad thing. I think you like you said. I think, like you said, it's about balance and I think two more to anything is bad. And it's about how you use it. Like you said, it's about balance and it's about like kind of time and being sensible and timing yourself and not spending too long on that game or that APP or you know. It's about just being mindful of arms timmy putting into these APPs. And you know, your phone even record you screen time now, so you can go on your phone like minds and it says you've been on this out before hours and you're a well, okay, yeah, I've been watching. Yeah, it's better having especially now because you know we're indoors, so you know, it's kind of go. That's kind of understandable. But sometimes when you're subconsciously kind of just going through life and you just kind of scrolling through videos, you know that your time and your energy and your focus is going into that and the other things that your time, energy and focus could be going into. You know, we could be reading books, we could be, I know, box on for everyone. You know everyone likes reading books. But you know, there's a lot, a lot of things out there where we can, you know, kind of benefit ourselves and do something positive. I think if you're watching like Ted videos, ted talks videos, or, you know, you're watching things that are educational, then that's great. I mean I like watching videos and funny stuff on Youtube and Netflix, we Audi and but it's not. But yes, yeah, balance, and I think we're lucky that...

...we have at a time like this. Oh Yeah, the world, we can record a podcast. Yeah, it's amazing. Ten years ago, ten years ago and was sixteen years old. Joy, Cheez, how do you know? Oh, yeah, was here. Yeah, Nice. Would can't believe me up the same birthday. That's crazy. Can hear me? Yeah, I can. Yeah, okay, so I just turned off for some reason. So Nice. Yeah, so it's crazy, like I'm a hour in one was what sixteen? I think I'm at you at the same time. Yeah, sixteen years old. To think we comment ten years isn't soon. I mean I think as well, like you, kind of not lose touch. But like I've always kind of messaged you know, you guys every so often see how things are. I've seen you enough from down's not to him? Yeah, what some people you think you're gonna always talk to them. I. Especially at school friends. You think you know, these people going to be my friends for life. And then some people you don't have anything from them. Where you see? Well, they might see him, and you know Bom vincon somewhere. You like, Damn, I haven't seen you in ten years or well, yeah, exactly. It's like I keep seeing Jordan on the boss. You know, Jordan James. Yeah, he's it wasn't. was on the way phone from work. Well, not now, that like before the Hafened, and we just be chilling and talking like nothing that happened, like ten years hasn't? Yeah, like I don't speak to anyone from school now, like on a personal but maybe I speak to Jordansttimes, but that's it. There's a lot of new friends I've made that aren't even come close to bes like Hok noll is, where my closest friends from. HMM, and then obviously islands by over closest friends. It's like I've got some one on my door stuff and there's the one all the way in Hook nor both to get a tramp for an hour journey. It's a good journey, but it's good, like I like meeting New People. Yeah, why? Like, I love it when I'm at working new people come in, because we was like our stage last year. You know, we bore the Financial Conduct Authority and it's not PPI claims going out. I don't know if remember that. You got it. You go all those phone called, yeah, claim for PPI. There's a lot of those going out about loans. Still Work for a loan company and all we got was an affordability complain after affordability complaint and it got to a stage where the FCA said, right, you've got to pay out. The financial conducts body said You got to pay out twenty million. Company like Wa, no, because I an American company. They've got loads of money from businesses in America. So they M so they cut ties, like cut ties of US and sold us to a different company, which is she'llby finance while work as now, and we didn't have any new people in the workplace for about a year. So it was like seeing the same face as yeah, I got on with everyone, but I even used to stay. It's done. I'm getting border, you know, and Usti people. They weren't just that, because that's kind to build up my leadership skills and to do that you've got to be able to help people. Fair enough for you to help everyone anyway. But now I've got New People in. Even now at home I won't even be working and I'll still get messages on it Sun. Now I'm in a different department now that's fitched on Wednesday, the day we started working from home. Switch Department still whole new thing, and I was all nice, now there's a manager and he'd help. But yeah, powered through it. But even people in the new department always ask me for help, and that the old department of still messaging me all the time, and it's good. It's good to know that you can help, because I like helping people. I like to be in a leaders roll. HMM. And I was on the leadership development plan, but then I squitch departments because I was like, well, I want to develop my skills back in other areas before become a leader, and so like hoping to stay in this department for a while and then go on that leadership course again and hopefully before manager after that. Really it's what I want...

...to anyway. Hopefully it's all put in place for me, but it's gotta keep going towards that leadership plan. There's going to be a lot of new people starting after this coronas over will be a few months, will be a fewls yet. Yeah, it's testing times and nothink will come out of it stronger. And Yeah, we're going to come out as stronger anyway. A lot of people are going to like wallow for the time being, but then the find things to do that they didn't think of doing at home before. A lot of people normally just do the same thing at home that they spend which time at home, so they watch a Netflix theories and then go up, go out whatever, so that only spend a little bit of time at home because of the spend most of the aire work. HMM. They always building, not that them, social skills at work as well, especially with a job black hours, because we're always on the phone, always talking to New People. So you've got to learn to mirror people and have that personality to make someone stay better, even if they're in a bad place. I'de at the moment. I feel safe peep that a moment like, especially if they've got a loan with us. They're called can't afford it, but luckily we got a planning place where we put it on hold for two months, which is really good. Yeah, I'm glad to put that in place because it wouldn't feel very moralistic point of my place because, yeah, I mean, yeah, something like this is like a tornado coming through and it's kind of, you know, of our control. And you know, if you you've lost your job and you can't work and you know income coming, and then how the hell you mense manage dats with hard debots and vice vers yeah, exactly. By I had to phone, you know, email a few companies up. You know, I've caught didevis women. I'm like, God, you know, cam any for it. Yeah, yeah, crazy time. Why is it like? What always? I gotta say, why is it you do nowadays? What workwise? I I was kind of work it. I kind of always worked in hospitality, often many years, since I was sixteen, hotels, restaurants, bars. Yeah, in like when I was in Nottingham and then came down to Cornwall and then I I was going to join the military. So I went down that face and that I was training towards that, and then I changed my mind. Wasn't for me, and then I kind of it's like, you know, hotels down here, restaurants, and then to retail, like close shops. Oh, yeah, I've between those two and then I did I tried university. Went University and then I didn't really want a career. In the course, I tried, yeah, move back to cornmall my family are. Yeah, and then kind of fell back into hospitality and then whilst I was doing that, I've kind of fell into like, you know, like coaching, personal development and kind of, you know, kind of moving more towards, you know, this kind of field really. Yeah, you've always what people. Yeah, and Love Working People like yourself. I look connecting New People. I like putting out my Confa Zone, you know, being around people. Really, I think you know, like you're probably like an extraver like me. So your energized by being around people. Your energize by connecting with people. Yeah, exactly. Like I like groups as well, like with one person. Yeah, I'll have a laugh of anyone, you know, half down with anyone. Like as you I don't care what. I don't care who a person is, as long as they're to me. I respectful and like we click, then that's fine. We can have a laugh. I like big groups, like I like different opinions and hmm, it's different. Like, yeah, different opinions are different imports and like, you know, if humor as well, whenever people like, there's always someone is gonna all a little joke and stays of going to meet you a really crap or yes, just it's wet house point. Yeah, House part of hers. Yeah, yeah, I think it was Connor's House party. Remember those days? Yeah, time, send that two girls and we always just about go on, let's get some good because we don't care about that stuff. Now's about that. You're...

...a boyfriend. Yeah, one of the Party was already talking to him. It was crazy. Those are crazy times. They were. Think about it. It's on good, good time sounds. Let my dog in a Um. Yeah, it was good times and the things you kind of like now, you know, that's before ways our proper I don't really have to worry about, you know, phone girl or certain things. You know, we kind of you know, I think we've matured a lot since then and you kind of you know from reflection, you look back, you know, you can come and see how far you've grown. Yeah, I guess he definitely how much of growing as a person. But then I used to be idiot as it. Yeah, and then one day I just picked up on what was. Well, I say, I say improved myself. It approved myself in my image, like I don't I don't care Tom what will people think anymore? Yeah, which I think is a good thing to have, because if you get too much about what people think, are going back to social media. HMM, not about likes and stuff like that, like if we go, don't get a hundred likes when she is depressed, because all the guy, guy or girl. It's not based on just gender, but like someone doesn't get a hundred knights on the photo. I think sh popular anymore. And Hmm, there's one thing that picked up on. It was it was watching leave on. I was watching at high school musical series, a new one, yeah, it, and they picked on something like that. Is One kid is a popular kid and then he starts doing something different on social media, like talk confessed about things he's done, and then someone says he's canceled and like he gets not any likes and it's depressed about it. That's what I think a lot of kids nowadays are brought up on popularity, which is like, well, the groups are in like I think they care about being popular too much for the care about what people think them. You sure, yeah, that's goodness. Like, yeah, fair enough. If you're going for something actually that you need to do through the Internet. You don't like music and anything like that. Anything you doing online, that's the further yourself. Yeah, care about what people think. Change yourself in a way that's going to improve your view to others. But you know when you just taken a picture and you don't get that many likes and then you concentrate too much on what you look like on camera, like like why is it? Beauties in that eye the beholder? And Yeah, a lot of people, I think, the oldly, who are beautiful people, which is which really annoys me, like because back in but then it shows a humble side to him as well. HMM. But I don't like people who have been degraded into that space, you know, like I don't like it when that's happened, because they can be a beautiful person but then say, Oh, no, nothing, I'm not, I'm not anything. I'm ugly. I'm ugly, any know. And then the state. I think a lot of stuff could be improved upon, but I think that's just with social groups nowadays. Like it's who hung around with, like you don't see some people getting bothered about it. But then you see some people on social media a time and that's just their life, like they live their life as they want it, but it's also living life through a screen. I'm all for people live in life however they want it, but when they're living it through a screen and care so much about what other people think, they forget themselves as a person and it becomes the one not and I think everyone just needs that, that individuality and just show up who they really are. I think that's the really I'll be a really positive thing to be the world do. And I think, you know, with this lockdown happening, I think a lot of in individuality is going to come through. They they aren't the eyes of people all the time. Now. Yeah, they're going to be on social media. Everyone's going to be on social MEDIAA but they're gonna pick up their own...

...trades, because you're not around people all the time anymore. HMM, yeah, you know, I mean, yeah, no, of course. I think we'll completely agree with what you just said on with social media and likes and how do the world is. You know, society is moving at such a fast pace where we rely on the things. That's one of the key components of this is that we rely on instant gratification. We we want quick results. You know, you can go on Youtube, press play, you can watch a video within seconds. Yeah, there's a lot patient like. Yeah, people want those like straight away, doing to upload a picture thet it's an addiction. It is an addiction. And the don't put me an ox too soon and the man ox too soon. There's not one as well, and that, you know, it releases the feel good hormone. Yeah, and your breath and your body when you get likes, when you get a night, when you get a text message off somebody, it makes you feel good. And people who addicted to these platforms. They were addicted to the likes, they're addicted to the comment. It's people saying you're and you know, people rely on that. And if people down that's seen it before. If people don't get certain likes, everything a fifty likes or hundred larns and a face photo the might beluting m you know, if you truly love the picture or the content that you put out, they might have like you get. Shouldn't matter. Shouldn't you truly loved that pitch you've done or edited or whatever it is? You know, you do it for yourself and you think to yourself. You know it's good. It's not about thinking. You know, it's not hard to fall into that track of thinking about how the people think of you. Yeah, and I think that's half the problem, is that people's people are making other people's opinions about them become their reality. That's true, and you always do it for yourself and no one else. Like you could. People are concentrating on doing things over. People like to over. People will pick up on it and they are yeah, it's amazing, you look amazing and HMM. They're not concentrating on like who they are, and they'll release them for in that isn't them, when our picture that is them, which is better. But they won't. They won't release that because then they think that they won't gus when life yeah, and but I guess that's like as being older not having that technology when I was younger. Yeah, we don't understand it as much. Again, it was like sixteen when it all started a bands, but we don't I don't think we get it as much as a people who have grown up with it the whole life. Because, like the kids are eighteen now, like they've had everything the whole life, from the playstation one. Know, we kind of came from like the you know, the millennial, you know, millennials. We came from we're part of that, not tribe, but we're kind of in that. Are Really millennials. Yeah, I'm to see maybe gen x, like yes, but little before the minute. And it was maybe because, like the Internet was kind of, you know, kind of just picking up when we when we were growing up. Where was kids today? They're born into it. The Internet, it's all kind of already going on. You know, like I've worked some restaurants and I don't my people using technology, but when you're in a nice location or in a restaurant, you know, don't go on your phone like your found. I've seen people, when I've been a waiter or working on a bar, people and they're not really talking to the person with and there's right by you know what's going on on their phone and it's sad because, you know, like living in the moment and, like what you said, meeting people, being around people that their life experiences in their moments. Yeah, exactly. and Go out somewhere and your partners on the phone for fifteen minutes and you're paying for that meal. You're in a nice place. You want to spend time talking to them and you can go on the phone at any other time, if the day or the week. You know. That's so, I think, you know, like moments...

...and life experiences are important. Yeah, it's like you know when you're going a date nowadays, like I'd say, yeah, nowadays, going to date people on the phones. Like I've been on dates with the girls on the phone and I'm like what's just fun? or She's shown me like or she's like on this funny video on the phone, like well, I want to connect with you, you know, like yeah, I want to know you as a person. HMM, which is like, like I find it hard to connect with people like that nowadays because I like to actually speak to the person, not through a medium that's going to well, yeah, a medium, like yeah, I medium that's going to bridge the gap. But you want to actually, if you're going to be impactible with someone, you got to be comfortable in their company and I think a lot of people have become so comfortable because they've got the phone all the time, and I think, yeah, it keeps them in that comfortable place that even, like you say, people in the restaurant the phone thing. It's because the most comfortable on the phone. But I always make a deal out of like not having phones at dinner tables or not having phone. I restaurant like out will part phones in the middle of the table and put on like do not disturb, so like we don't get anything, any notifications, no distractions, and we just enjoy each other's company and I think that's a good way forward, especially for friends like because a lot of friends will become disconnected through technology. Yeah, but there's it's just this the the world nowadays and it's about growing into the world where in and yeah, so just that's a chain of for it. No, we agree, it's it's some born and nothing, I feel, is ACTU the same. And then I think, you know, we cannot be guilty of it. Sometimes you can, I can do sometimes I can go my phone. You know, when I'm a dinner take sometimes I'm like, you know what, Nas shouldn't put it, put it to one side. Yeah, we've all been guilty of down me, but but I yeah, we have. And I think you know, you said if you want to date or something like that, or you're going from mail, if someone goes on their phone if you want a date, you know, getting to know somebody, it kind of makes you subconscious consciously makes you feel like you're not important. It makes you feel like that phone is more important than you. Yeah, it does. And I've had a lot of that in, you know, like past relationships where it goes on the phone all the time. But then I've been going of it. Well, buten on my phone, and I guess it's finding that middle ground by between technology and people, because like, yeah, I'll stay in my past relationship, man is recent one. I'd be on my playstation all the time, she being watching youtube videos and it's like I'll be on the same room. Yeah, I guess it's because we got so used to each of US company. But at the same time as that, well, you're not really spending quality time together. You just yeah, they're not screens, but the best. It's not the best situation to put yourself in. Really, like you want to connect with people on a personal level, as you say, and if you're spending too much time concentrating on your technology, your phone, you play station. Like I got to a point where I had to start going out again, because I never used to go out when I was in a relationship and then I used to. Got Done, I started going, I like once a month and two weeks and every month, because I've got bored. Yeah, and it was driving me crazy being in with someone and I'd be like, Oh, yeah, spend the night of you, and I she said, I know you go out. Go Out, do what you want, and even like that person saying that in my heart, you don't want to spend time or the organized this and hmm, my it just I guess that that droves apart because we didn't really speak as much, which is weird because we was living together. So, yeah, we need to speak as much when we were living together, but when we weren't doving together, we spoke all the time and everything was better. Like I see a twice a week and I we start living together and that's when things are going down. But you live...

...in your land, which I've learned a lot from that time and it's maybe into the personal home today, and I wouldn't ever say about word about our person either. No, noice, nice, Great Jordan. And that's it's how you like I said, it's how you grow and you you know, if you don't try these things, if you don't take a risk, like a lot, you know, a lot like you know, there's risks that we take all the time and you know, like move them with someone, having a relationship, you know, as and doing what you do, you know as a risk and you have to try out and that's how you grow and it's how you learn from experiences. Yeah, and you know, you you can flat back on that and you know when you meet the next person, and vice girls. So you know you won't, probably won't make certain decisions that you do in the past because you know, it's just how we work and it takes faith, it takes takes guts to make certain decisions, decisions in life, but that's you know, that's you know. I think it's point to do that, because if you don't make some decisions, you're not going to know you and you don't want those regrets for not taking those decisions. Yeah, exactly, and I think what we came to the decision to not be together together, if you know, I mean like there's a very mutual thing and then everything's then all if the first shit, but that's kind of well, people are like, yeah, but you've got a lie. You know, look after yourself. When you both got it. You got to be happy for the other person. You've got to be happy, you know, you can't happen towards you've got to look after your happiness. You can't be luck if that our persons not happy. Yeah, you can't. You can't hold them back. Yeah, you got to let that do all they got to do and they got to do the same to you. There's no point being in something, being unhappy for the sake of being in a relationship and being attached someone, because that's what a lot of people do. Yeah, that's what it became like for us as well. I think it was just there for the sake of it and because we were all we knew, having more year and a half starven that long year and a half. Like we're together, so, but we still only knew each other. And now remember, like going on my first day after like a few months after, and I was the most awkward person ever, you know, trying to get back into the sea, and I was like, so, what do we think? It's one of the I foind a what I found one of the hardest fins. Like in my past I was in a relationship three and a half years, for a long time. And, yeah, and then when you when you're not, when you haven't dated for a while and stuff, you high, learning to walk. Yeah, I thought it was like I was like feeling anxious. Now I was like, God, I've felt like this for agents, but you don't realize what its idea, and then you like band beyond. I yeah, completely. Yeah, but you know, you just got to go through those motions and I think you know if you've got to. I think there's no there are no wrong decisions in life. Well, I think you've got to have really bad experiences sometimes to know who you are, know what it is you want. You know who you want to be with. You kind of you have different relationships, different experiences, you like don't want them, and then when you when you finally meet that person, it just a kind of clicks. It's it's just so it was really weird, but it's kind of amazing, you know, and you know like you don't realize that till you've got it in every for everything for a reason. You know, you appreciate certain things. There's a lot of people out there, by people I know, girls I know, who go on man a trash because they've had bad experiences and I always says you're not found the right money or you've been going for the wrong man and that, I don't know, matter this that, and I'm not yeah, well, women can be tracked. You know that. It's not gender specific. Anyone can be a piece like trash. You know I mean. And it's about learning from those people that were treated you like garbage and learning what you actually want from someone instead of going with the flow, base and unlock, because a lot of time I based it on what a girl looks like and...

...then I meet him in person and the Driest Personal Matt and that's when I stopped talking to him, unfortunately. But there's a yeah, I was gonna say yeah, unfortunately, like there's a lot of people, aren't there, who are gonna base things on like relationship. They'll based on where someone's social standing is, where what they looked like like. They want someone with the right image instead of having someone with the right personality. And Hmm. That's why I think a lot of the time things don't work out. They were they'll stayed together for a long time and then realize they're not actually happy. They were just happy with for they saw that. Judging a book by its cover, HMM, like you judge it and you think, wow, this looks amazing, and then you read the book it's the worst book you've read in your life. And the different thing as well, like you look at a book and you go spit Drab, but then you get, you know, I mean want, but then you actually read the book and you think, Wow, this is amazing, and that's why it's other people. HMM. Yeah, you can look at someone and go like done, really want that, and then you go and then, yeah, gets known into it. Wow, this person actually amazing. It's just some one I could spend my life with. Mean, yeah, no, completely, and I think people said to me I've never been in a relationship and live moved them with my partner. I've never. I've never done that, but I've, you know, gone on holiday, like like me and my girl from recently went to front. Yeah, I think about a week. And you know that when you spend time with that person it's kind of like a little test in some way, and you kind of get a feel for that person and you see more of that person and that person sees more of you and you kind of realize if you know, you can be with that person, like if it's on my own life to test, and you know relationships can be challenging, a bit of a test, but you've got to it's all, you know, it's a lot of gaging with the energy you have that person that we poor. It's not all about looks, it's about in a personality and you know you've really got a tune into that person and what you give our you know, has to come back to you. But it's that in the night young it's that fifty, it's it's trust, it's communication. Communication is one of the most key things, you know, foundation and relationship in listening. You know, don't argue over text, don't take things over text. You know, talk about it over the phone. Me In person, talk on facetime. Exactly. You want to get to know someone in person, even on facetime, like a lot of my stuff, coronavirus. Friday night we had yeah, well, you got the monopoly game on Pscour Yah last week and men and laughter, job, you guys wants. Really good to do something like that. And then Saturday night it's nice and we just did a facetime. Yeah, yeah, I'm nice. It was funny because, HMM, laugh on. So refreshing because we're like we're, yeah, going out all the time week. So we used to get drunk together in each other's company and then going out to town, lose each of it, and it's good to actually have that. Yeah, I want that. Had A few drinks, but, you know, be stable, yeah, and connect. Yeah, just relax. Yeah, I'M gonna save a lot of money as well, which is yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean for...

...people who can save in this situation or getting paid. You know, it's it's great. I mean for a lot of you know, a lot of people to get and I always like the phone positive and wish. Yeah, I've got a percent on every phone call, because there's a lot of people are there now who the place. Yeah, but I mean like with that, you know, I'm in that same kind of failty. Honest, I was working for clothing company and then we had all that bad weather and all the floor words and where I live in is very, very quiet area and I was on like, I think, twenty five for at our contract and then our particular store wasn't doing over the great so they just slash my hours to like five a week. So I was struggling and I was looking for other jobs. But predominantly where I am is a lot of hospitality work. There are a lot of other jobs in other areas, but but dominally its hospitality. So yeah, in Cornwall, yeah, it's you know, it's south coast. So all the bad weather was happening and it's a funny time a year. Lot places aren't taking on staff and then this virus thing came in. So, you know, restaurants, bars, everything's all kind of close down now. So, like I'm I'm kind of, you know, not working and it is difficult, but you've got to know people out there who my be listening who are in the same situation or out to work. You just kind of you know, just try and channel your energy into being productive. You know, like right now we don't have this downtime, as we said before, and you can put your time and energy into that. Business you wanted to create, you know, exercise, look at Youtube or tutorials. You know, the Times now to create things that we want to create. Ye, and that's, you know, I'm doing with this. And, like we've all this downtime. You haven't got any pressure on yourself move higher, if you know I mean, because everyone's in the same boat. Yeah, well, you can do is improve your personal aspect. So you want to do in life, you can find what what your passion is, like my passions, music and I and that you're you're doing life and stuff like that. So obviously it's bad that you've not. The same time, it's giving you that freedom to concentrate and energy into something like that, and even your podcast, which year to do that without it's a blessed any curse of the bit of a curse, if obviously not the best situation to be in, but you just got to look up what you have got and what you can do to improve yourself. Yeah, I couldn't. I could be more joban and I think, like you know, we with that. It's looking at what you have got and not looking at what you haven't got. And I think you know, as people were so inclined to think that way. We're always looking for the next big thing and we're always seeking the next thing. We know, we've got lots of different I'm guilty of it. I've got lots of different things. And you know, we need to appreciate things you have got, because the people out you know, the people out there in far worse situations who would probably appreciate the things you've got much more. But just because our society is it's like, get the new phone, get the new Game Top, because you've got now all the time in the world. Yeah, well, you know, yeah, drive yourself into your passions and you can, and you've got all the time in the world...

...to be able to improve, because there's no we've got being locked down. Maybe that relaxa so yeah, and in that time, if you haven't got anything to do, you've got everything to do at the same time. Like, yeah, whatever you like with your life. And like my youtube now is full of music stuff. I'm trying to improve on and I'm driving myself fully into that. Yeah, I will decrastinate. And what bookly nine nine, season six is just come on Netflix and it fully watching that for the time being, but I can. I watched that while to work as well. So yeah, it's just quite keeping positive, like any little thing, and just driving yourself. You gotta find that driving yourself on. A lot of people relying with people to drive, but it's the time now where independent and there's a lot of independence if people live alone. I know it's hard. Obviously used to going out socializing, but now you're home alone. I'm home alone at the moment. Was With Fellow and Mansfield. Haven'tina for the past week and it does, it does play on your mind a bit because you like what you don't talk to. Give myself pep talk in the mirror talking, you know, I mean find myself talking to myself all the time. I or what are the yesterday I watched high school musical or they what my life became, you know. But I've always know, I've always taste. You know, my took me to watch the greatest showman and I wasn't really into musical almost I was a very interview comes it, skeptical, you know, going into the theater there dinner. Yeah, yeah, and then I came out of it and I was like wow, this is the best team like and yeah, seeing a story like that as well, I know, it's far different to the real life story. Pretty move my Vation, wasn't it? But it's very one factual like compared to what the real life thing was. Finally, Pon was the best person in the world, but it's good that they took the first like showman, who invented the circus, and then made into a positive story. And they also hit fum yeah side, which I really liked because you don't many see feels like that. I know you've got you both. He has slave, amazing film. Have you seen a phone called for as well? I know I do lot my films, but I can see those. FIS about it was actually slave. And then one hundred forty two is about Jackie Robinson, the first black baseball player professional basement and yeah, theism in that and it's, yes, pretty motivational for like, you know, to hear these stories about, you know, these people who've come through hard times and you know they've made something of themselves. You know they've written a book, could have made a film, you know from their life. You know, I couldn't imagine what it was like, you know, back then, you know, being their situation. I mean it's crazy, you know, like to be segregation and you know all of that. You know, you know hard, hard times, but it's like I like Billy holiday, her music. You Billy holiday be the holiday. She black, Black Lady and she did music, I think, during the nineteen s S. don't, don't quote me on my quite old fashioned...

...music. And she was, you know, spoken to like crap. They threatened her, they basically stopped her from performing, they took a took away the one thing she loved, singing. They took it away from it. They they, they told bars and nightclubs that, you know, don't don't let this woman saying. Will find you if you let her saying, because she was basically talking about what the white, you know, white people, doing to the blackform. Yeah, and she one of those her songs, one of her songs are called called strange fruit. I think it was. was resembles talking about, you know, people being at the blood, people being Hong by the trees. They were the strange fruit, you know, the trees. And she she was ridiculed and you know, you can look at the full story on the Internet. Well, she followed what she loved. She continued singing and she went through a lot, but they kind of broke it down, you know, but she continue to, you know, spread this message off with what she believed that. I don't think we've evolved that much, to be honest. In some way, like, you know, like we have evolved, but racism is still going up, storms up. How yeah, he's done well because he's black education program by. Yeah, it's the murky foundation is like that, and he basically takes to do black children a yeah, and puts me in to Cambridge University and like the qualification, but he's got the education program in place to make sure they've got them education they can actually succeed. Yeah, and there's like it's really inspirational to see something like that because you don't get many people like that. And it's like think it was the first British rapper to headline Glastonbury and which was amazing. Yeah, and then you got people like Dave as well. Has Song Dave, I saw. Listen to me. Is Album is new our ask me. He's really good. He's the very deep, isn't it? He's very deep. It's lyrics are very philosophical, psycho for was a really like deep song, because you don't realize it, but when you listened to the beat in the song. First Bas like normal, and then it goes up tempo and then it goes down to a lower tempo, like a very low tempo. And that piano and what it is the yeah talk about his mental state. So saying I'm normal to than I get really high, then I get ready down, because he's like one moment I'm happy, then I'm sad again and and it's like it's thing about suicide, and that song as well, he says if you're thinking about doing it, suicides not doesn't resolve the problems up another it's the only moving it. and which a four was a really yeah thing to talk about, especially if the one is coming up in rap. And then he did yeah, black as weld any and that was very controversial on the the Brits. The racist. Who who do you think? Like it's really random question, like between storms and Whiley, who do you think? Who did you prefer? When they are that clash? His music was better, let's say it is thinks for better. Probably while he's his means, like Whiley, he knows what to do. The drum up his album was coming out like us up high and you did it. He went at the best person and the best person responded and then they're both gained from it and none of them got any negativity from it. Well, see why? They got start by every one. But he knew that was going to come, while he knew this guy's the biggest person in British music at the moment. So to dig him I'm going to take a lot of black and he's obviously prepared itself for that. But I think, I think storms. He did better in the U and the rap. It's a very...

...different he just drill music. Doesn't a stormies, more like modern grime. But it's like drill brook, Whyley, why? I mean I love grime music. You know not. But what Whiley is like old school original crime, how grime used to be and how grime. You know that traditional old school crime. He started and I could not just like stories done. This song is always rhyme. Say what you like them, because in ground you can say whatever you like. Like it's in the most random stuff and you see it all the time, like you know what was going on. Grimemars would be on about one one thing in one line and the next time I want to even make sense the line before. And that's what yeah, yeah, you can hear what you're saying, like he's very clear, and with Miley you can know what I saying, but the fast time and it's a different pace. It's it's completely different. It's this is more about the music, like his music. Yeah, no one, no one can say music. I followed by while on twelve because he I other put. I see he put a, put, a tweet, and he said that he owe somebody eight hundred pounds and I said to him, you start selling things on Ebay? Any. Put. No, for jokes, not don't you do, and I put up. I put. Yeah, but I've been there because actually has put things on Ebay and Oh yeah, Hashtag hard times though. Any I think because he was being serious, he was that being negative to me, say no, I don't, you do, and I was like being jokey about it and I wasn't like being the cool but but I found quite surprised. I don't think it applied, to be honest, and of US scared, I for he's he's done well. I mean people are still going to listen to his music. I just think his music, not the or the audience who listened to storms these music, kind of didn't necessarily start listen to Whiley. Yeah, if you know, to me it's different audience. Now, songs of the year. Yea. And first he was a bag in June was an amazing strong and he didn't even like he would have any it was over in its Paul Jean, Paul Hmm, some flat. Then he had his doll my one as well, Tony, and it's two different mainstream marks the one, and then he had like the lots another song in both songs bind, and so he still knows what to do. Yeah, he's not got to wear he is without any plans. So he's yeah, yeah, I just think like wraps becoming DOMs. He's like music, but then he's also spoken word in a way. If you look at his more deep songs, like and I think they've Dave is a good example of it as well. He's become broken word. Yeah, is in the thing. I agree. I hate pop music and I think it well, obviously higher, but but I just shows you like you, doesn't matter where you come from. You know, we all have to start somewhere. As long as you start and you're putting out the what you put in them, work into it and you put it out there. You know, regardless of you know who you are, where you from, what your races, you know how old you are, like you think like storms. You know, Whiley, he know these guys will start from somewhere. And I went to see other if you ever heard of him, but it's called Oliver Tree. I'll send you some of his content. I went to see him in Bristol with my little brother and a little other got me in too much and he's really good. Is He's American and he's a rapper and he does hisser music videos and he's been signed by the same record label as Edge shearing. So his his budget for his video videos are on part of lighted sharing and stuff. But he's done really well and he's very different. He wears like nineties clothes, he's got a bowld cut, he looks a bit strange, but...

...that's kind of what adds to his personality. You know, no one else is doing the stuff that he's doing and I think in the music industry you kind of got to be a little bit different. I mean, I'm not in the music industry so I don't really know, but from an outsider you know. But it's a lot of competition, but you've got to kind of follow what you think is right, but try not to copy what someone else is doing. At People's styles, but not fully, like there's a lot of different music. I listen to my music. When I start releasing it, your hair like a yeah, and then, well, a lot of different inspirations towards it. They'll be one song where hmmst thing and there's all these yeah, look so styles. You know, like I don't want to be stuck in one style. I know it's a hard thing to do, especially in music, to play with all these different styles, because a lot of people wanted to constantly on HMM, like was yeah, well, I'd say over the edge and everyone else takes the one thing first edge and just that time sang any from before your famous and yeah, the good thing of it. But if you look at storms a, he was a rapper, never heard of a thing. Now there's thing on songs. It's like it's adapting, like he's adopted do any. Well, but then it's like keeping see yourself as well, because I think at first he wasn't by himself, but and now he's like and this releash. Yeah, and making sure he brings out the best of possible not to watch the documentary on him and he's like on interview and he's like, I'll be in the studio with the producer. Never know this bit. He's a bit of a Vilan. He's like the director of WHO I add? Hell, the adding things to make sure it's light percent the produced and stuff, but you'll be there with the producer. So, but I listen, yeah, I want to sound like that, and then the producer would do it all. I think producers don't get off credit. MM. Now, who put the names on songs? Obviously da would get a start that after me, but M it's a good thing. Like I think, is it ahs new song with AJ Tracy, Rain Steve? I'm not heard that. Not as not the best like that. They've both done as on some great music. You, HMM, take keys, the producer. I think I produced. Oh yeah, that's not anyway for drake. Not. Yeah, that's that's the you know, like you've got to provide value, avenue like you know the content you make. It's like I supposed to either gone a podcast and he said he didn't put content out there less he knows it's going to provide value to other people like you could, but like, you know, like do you watch Gary v Garry Vay in a church? He's really, really, really good. These were kind of one of my kind of mentors. He he's into marketing and social media and creating content on social media. He kind of you know, he posts so many different clips and so much content. But you know, you can. You can do that. Or some people they'll create something, they'll tweak it, they will make it look good and then they'll release it. But if we're social, HMM, yeah, do you know my Mat Lewis? Do you know my friend Lewis Missing? I had had them on the podcast few times. Yeah, yeah, he makes his own music and sings songwrights. I can play the piano, play the guitar, really tell he's really talented. He makes music and he's he's are releasing a thinking ep or an album at some point. After get off to get in touch with him...

...and you know, you never know, you two could always make some music. You never know. In its club, it is a club with people. When connect with people who doing the same thing, that you are going to help each other and what you believe it because I'm really good. I am on the track level of greatness. Yeah, but the thing is, what I think as well with the aspect, is that sometimes that's how you grow as people. Sometimes it's good to have people around you who better than yourself or be in a scenario where someone's better at the craft than you, because that that motivates you to be better and to be better than them. And I notice that in crossfit. I remember when I went across yous looks like circuit training, and there's this woman and she was like think forty five and a fortis and she was like the smaller than me and she was running circles about me and I was I was like damn, I was like can I want to on a bet on a better bed than her? Yeah, I want to, like, you know, I want to like be at that level. I want to be doing better than here. You know, I'm half her rage or whatever. So yeah, and you know, we have a choice. We either go yeah, I'm going to let that person motivate me and I'm gonna be better than them and use it in that way, or, you know, we can be resented for and be like Oh, that that person, they're so you know, xyzer. But if you're if your drawing from negativity. You're not. It's like you know law of attraction. You know about the law of attraction, like what you think you attract. If you've got to accept that person to then you know, accept and we'll come out into world. It's like if you see someone in a flashy car, if you go are that person's are a dick. Look at them in that car. Yeah, you know you're you will never have that in your life if you're coming from that negative place. Yeah, true, because, like the vibes robottle equal as well. Negativity breeds negativity and positivity breeds positivity. And in those situations, yeah, got to be positive. You can't be in a situation like that and think I'm never gonna be able to do that, because if you think that way, then you're not going to be better than that. You got to think to yourself, even like you stay the person's winning circles round, just talking to the person like can really open your mind because they can give you tips and take an advisal of people. Oh Yeah, the main way you'll ever improve yourself. Obviously there's a lot of individual yeah, it's a lot of individual opinions that you have well, youself. And Yeah, sometimes you got back away from the individual thoughts and think of what other people think. So, like you can do yeah, I could release the song and then someone could say to me about you need to do this to become bad, and I could look at that and go, person's just trying to do or I could take any good. You know what? Yeah, let me try that, especially like we're having my home studio. That's they know, studios just m but not being able to do at home. It's almont says to me, I'll do this to be better. Okay, let me take that on. I'll try it. If it doesn't sound right to me and I won't do it, but not at least iop giving it him no, and then it could potentially make me better what I do. Yeah, Nice. It's it's kind of letting yourself be vulnerable and you know, like sometimes I'm guilty of it. If sometimes I don't know my met members of my family or friends can sometimes like say,...

AH, why don't you do this way? And sometimes, you know, in the past I've got defensive because if I'm doing something certain way, I want to be doing it my way because I'm independent. You know, I'm quite be a person, but sometimes you have to let other people in listen to their advice because you know they might be right. You know you can just tweak it a little bit and you know you've got to let people in love in you, because you know it's how you grow and it's you know, that's one of the key things to be in a person is listening. Isn't it listening to other people, letting will people give you advice music, and that was because I thought I didn't sign natural or I was forcing something out, but I could have listened yeah, people and kept going, but I decided in myself to really become better, I need to take a break, live my life and get some experience as that from, because without experiences in life you're not going to improve. I don't think like if you become this person, it doesn't let yourself experience certain things because certain fears or certain restrictions that you have, then you're not going to have that experience to be able to improve on that. Yeah, that's like, I don't know. Yeah, I just wanted to experience die have my life the way I wanted it. There's still not the way I want it, but I thought now was the time to actually do something, because and I'd have a lot of positivity and the stuff I like to talk about music, yes, going to be like a lot of deep stuff as well. It's not going to be all happy and done a year. There will be songs. Yeah, I'll be positive, but I won't be talking about being the Croup of girls. That's not one of my things, a music mode, or to talk about it and to that easy. Yeah, exactly, and I think it the humanizes people, you know, like we're wrappers. Nowadays you have a lot of I get girls, I get this objectify in the human eyes it because, yeah, I'St to these popping songs really good, but like my main music, I listen to the music and Louis Capaldi, you know, deeper. If you ever, if you ever heard of an artist called that MC, I'll send you some of his content. I sent it to one of my friend Zy. He does really deep music. He he makes music. He's made a lot of scores, music scores for movies. That's just instrumental, but a lot of his music he does these instrumentals. He wraps with them as well, but the things he wraps about a very, very, very deep very, very deep. Oh, I'll send you some of his stuffies, really good, really old, called little lady by this rapper and collaborations. First one, and that's one, the deepest, prostitution. And Yeah, and then, and I think it's based on a true story and I follows already through and I just thought that deep stuff. Yeah, this. Listen to Lois, because always seem to be from the heart. You can tell his voice. And this social media, like his instagram, is video. Yeah, it can take them so serious, does it don't take so? Yeah, I just walked off and they did the Sacamore. Is that? Yeah, about the girl on the island who you can see most nights, actually about my grandma. So want to fund moment dad, for making love. And it's just like you can get away of it because...

...you guys that kind of profile and personality, where as if anyone else did that, to be in the papers and everything else. But you have to be careful that you was in the spotlight. You're careful what you say. I think you know to be careful. Say Jungle. Well, people would know in a pub in Scotland and my mom's friend out there, and basically what he did. He came in with as me and he brought everyone's drinks for the night and and he was basically I just don't put Oh wow, anyone here, you don't want any press, but likely to do that. Obviously brought everyone's drinks to the night, which I thought was really nice, because not everyone would do that. Yeah, Oh, no, and no, exactly, Scotland the way, with a family. And then there was cloy walks and drink. You know, wow, I know, ten yaggerbombs May. Yeah, yeah, the No, that's nice and it's about you know, you want to be seen as a nice person. You want to be a nice person and you know you want to help funds out and you know it can't be easy being in the limelight, especially, you know, you go out somewhere like that. You just want to have a chilled one. Especially I've Seen Gordon Rums you when I went to a restaurant down here with my dad, because he's got he's got a few houses down in this area and my dad's she earth. He's in beyond the trade for quite a while. My Dad's like, Oh my God, it's like it's called a Ramsey, it's got a Romsy, but that's jumping about. I'm not just leave him. He's with his wife, with his door or whatever. Just you just want to shoot our meal in the corner of the restaurants. Leave them. My Dad is I don't know, I'm getting as all graph and I was like I'm not. You know, I don't want to see into a fold with thought around. You told my dad to like I do want, I think that hard guy on the outside. No, but yeah, but I'll just like that. Just respect, you know, respect him, you know, just respect to space, because the restaurant and people come up and try and get pictures and why would you want to? We would you want to if use, you know, in the limelight and you just want to chilled me or with your family somewhere, and someone's like me could have your car. It depends what personally you got. Really myself personally, I don't think I'd mind. Yeah, accept it, you know, because you know you're this person like you know. Yeah, a lot of people are going to him. Yeah, I do about ten or grass and then after a while I've belot. My my main course is getting cold. Can you just I leaves, like yeah, yeah, I'm a very but like if you heard of immortal, technique, technic. Now he's sent for his music. He's really good. But, like, you know what I would music and people, I think on the rate of the young people who are on the righted artists, love, on the rated artists out there. That absolutely amazing, you know, especially those who create some contact on Youtube in become venmous for Youtube. Tasha Sultana, you heard, she started on youtube in a bedroom or in a living room. Yeah, yeah, you know, this is, like I said, with this yeah, but you know, like, like I said, we'll swim up earlier. You know, we've got time now, space now, to create the things that we want to create. You know, create that music you want to create, create that song, create that podcast, create that Youtube Channel, build that dream. Business is like. You know you want to create. You know the time now, because six, seven months or four months time this blows over, you'll be back at back at work, and you are half that time that...

...you have now and you know you want to reflect on this, look at the positive things. You don't know, the productivity that you created yourself. And you know, especially if you can help, obvious in this time as well, could have written a script anything. My mates want to be Acti University. Yeah, indie music and rap music. They want to do them. Yeah, which falls a really good idea and it's just a shame. Yeah, this happening the same time. You can write script because so we can actually do because he wants to do as well, so we can actually are right in now and they study's reading a lot of book. Yeah, I think books an amazing thing, especially for your vocabulary. Like Oh, yeah, if, yeah, if you read books, you pick up so many words and you just instantly know the meaning of the word because it's in the way it's put. So it gives you that for your vocabulary. Yeah, so many big so many big words. And people are like Jordan. HMM, like, like more supps, like we're gonna look back at this time, a lot of us, in a few months and my battle ourselves from it. Think, well, I've had all that time to not anything. Or Yeah, I've had all that time where I've not had a human contact. HMM. You may have a family, the situations, or you go out into time drink. I mean a lot of new people from town and like it's a good thing, but the same times it's not, because all I'm doing, the only way I'm getting to know people is through drinking and HMM, add I guess I'll go and get away from it. M Now I'm actually stuck indoors. I'm looking at life a whole different way and I'm looking at things that I want to do with my life. I've got the time, let's do it. It's not I can clear you agreement, and I think it makes you very grateful for your current situation. It makes you reflect and makes you think, and I think you know a lot of people. We don't know ourselves. We don't really spend time by ourselves. We don't. We're so caught up in society and the norms of society and what's going on around is and, you know, working and watching TV or socializing, you know, which all things. But when we're so busy, our tension is not on ourselves. Where's now? Our tension is on ourselves, and you know, we can only grow from this. I think you know, get to know yourself, get to know you, who you are. You know you think, what you feel, what makes you happy, what drives you, because you know, we we've got all the answers we need within us. You know, we live in a society in a world where we're seeking things outside muscles, whereas you know, isn't the answer, whereas like new now, we can think we can, you know, do something with our time. You know, I'm not watching TV, Netflix and we will do that, but don't spend six hours doing it, because because,...

...like what you said, yeah, and it's very easy to fall into that hole because it's easily accessible. It's easy to but you feel so much better when you put the offense because, oh, yeah, yeah, I don't people can take stuff like that and think, yeah, you know what, I should do something myself and made my life that like. Hmm, I think you usually just talking. Okay, you're saying, like, you know, you got respond or things. Makes you feel good when you do so that, yeah, you know, productive, and it's very good to like have that, because there's been a long time now where I haven't had that. Yeah, right, songs. Got About fifty songs that are started drying on my phone recently and that's all from thinking, that's all from I've been singing at work and then some's going on, you can actually sing, and then from then I was like why when I do music, because I've obviously got passion for it. Well, I do this thing, all of those rapping you, I mean. So why not put that good youth, instead of not going good, use me and instead of racing talent away, because as a lot of people hidden talents that because they're not confident and M and with that as well, like you, buy career, my music and put out there. People will be able to relate to it and the might be people are there in the similar situation who think that they concering and they hear your music and inspires them and music's a powerful thing, and then go I could do that. Yeah, this it's like, you know, anybody who does something, there's always going to be that person who might like who might not like it, but you know that's that's their opinion. I's got their own opinion, but you can't make their opinion ir relic reality for You Yourself, the mother people of modern as podcasts. You know, my old people who like some of the things I use, sing about all the things I put out there, but you know, there's always going to be that personal they're like that. You know you've you can't focus on it. You just got to focus on the things you enjoyed doing. Like, you know what, Fifty Years Times you're a look back on your life and be like no, you know, I should have done that. You know, I care too much about how other people thought about me. And you know, the negativity. Were you to try it? You know, you know you sometimes we have to fail. We know we all have to stop somewhere, but it's how you learn, isn't it? It's kind of how life works. You have to kind of go through that. You have to love the process. Yeah, yeah, look about Boa name. Okay, yeah, look at that. There's a lot of inspirational things that they can think. There's a lot of people who these people drop out of high school and Universe. Bill Gates, he's an amazing guy. He actually he actually predicted this. How in predict but he he warned is about this pandemic happening. Four...

...years ago, I saw a youtube video he did where he's doing a ted talks and he too was talking about ebowl and he was talking about how viruses work and how they spread and where the money from the government is going and when the money needs to go and what's happening. And he said, you know, you, yeah, put out there and look at you know, what happened. What's happened, but we've I mean this, this recording goes on for two hours. We've got six minutes, five and a half minutes left. Like what would you say? How can people help their physical, mental, innomation health? Would you say right now? Would you say people is a big thing. Then let yourself get lost in loneliness. You know I mean, like it's very easy for you to now to go into a hole and never come back out. So to make sure you connected facetime in keeping keeping close to your friends, make sure your friends are okay, because a lot of people out there one okay, but if you check upon them, then they could, they could, that could be the light of their day, like they could make them much more positive themselves. By making this one else positive, it will make you feel positive, because positive to be positivity. Other things you can do to make your help your mental health now is concentrate on what you love, like past, like I said, passions. Drive Yourself, take yourself goals, and it's hard to say yourself goals in light in the situation we're in, but there's always goals. You can have target you can reach. So if you want to, if you want to do something of your life work towards it. You got a lot of learning to do over the next few months and to improve yourself. You can learn a lot by look up videos, going online too, to all wheels and over the next formals will be much better than you are the beginning the formal. It's just about pushing yourself towards that, and it's going to be a lot of people of very difficult to get through this, which I can understand, and it's a very situation, especially just being stuck indoors. It's it's such for all of us, but just got to they stick together, like I say, keep in contact with people and they'll be the one to bring you up for all of this and you'll find out who your close friends are as well, and make sure you keep that most but, like they that goals and achieve those targets that you're set, and I just have something to work towards to keep your mind off all of this in the world at the moment and you'll be one on your way up in the lass for a nice room pretty much like you know, same same lines of what you said, as well as you know, keep yourself, keep so busy, try and keep youself active. You know, if you're in a position where you can do that, you know, press ups, get out of bed. You know, if you never excise before, you know, try five, try five and build a build up over time. You know, exercise, meditation, listen to hypnosis videos on Youtube, meditate, read right and, you know, to have a grant. Last started doing like a con gratitude journal. My girlfriend's been doing. She's kind of push me to, you know, kind of Bot me to do it. Is You have a list. Make a list of you know, let me start with twenty things or the things that you're grateful for in your life. You know, make a list, plan things in your day. You know, in even if you can go out there, can go out for a walk for ten minutes. You know, social distancing and all of that. You know, to really try to try new things, try new things, create, be creative. You know, know, push all you comfort zones, because right now, you know, we are in our comfort zones. For at home, this is our comfort zone. If you can create something that pushes you out of...

...that, you know, channel that energy into, you know, those areas and I think you know do what scares you. You know, don't. Don't worry about what will people think. And, like said, you know, connect with people, message people who you've hobbied in speak to for a couple of years. You know, reconnect people, build new connections, you know, be there for people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is going to go off in ten seconds. Show them, but I appreciate you being on and it's been a pleasure. I now you welcome. Yeah, as I'll see sumn.

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