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The Parrsitivity Podcast
The Parrsitivity Podcast

Episode 76 · 2 years ago

The Parrsitivity Podcast #Episode 26 NVDES

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In today's Podcast I am with Josh Ocean 'AKA' NVDES, he is a music artist that has collaborated with other artists from Oliver Tree, Remmi, Yann Lauren and many others. Apple has used his music multiple times for thier iPhone tv commercials, NVDES latest song purusha has also been used for Apples latest iPhone SE tv ad too. In today's episode we talk about spirituality, raising the vibration, Covid-19, passion, society, mindset, paradigm shifts, law of attraction, creativity, passion, success, universe, people, energy, the positive impact of nvdes music and much more!. You can find his content here: Instagram@nvdesmusic YouTube:NVDES --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/the-parrsitivity-podcast/message

Hi and welcome to the positivity podcast. On the day's episode I am with Josh Ocean, Aka nudes. He's a music artist based in Los Angeles and his collaborator with other artists from Oliver Tree, Remy Young, Loren and much more. is also had his music featured on Apple's iphone TV commercials. His New Song Prussia has also been news on Apple's latest iphone see trailer. In today's podcast we talked about music, energy, passion, following your dreams, the current situation with covid nineteen and lockdown mind set. I'm much more very humble to have nudes on the podcast and I hope you enjoy this episode. So sit back, relax and enjoy. Hello, newds, are you doing? Hey man, how's it going? Yeah, well, good. Oh good, this is cool. I never use this apple for yeah, it's pretty be amazing, to be honest. And it and it's free, so you can just you free to create, you know, whatever content you want to make. Really yeah, that's dope. And then so you download the recording file and then you edit it, or are you just like keep it? Or Yeah, you can. Basically, this is this is recording from you know, soon as we start. Yeah, and I can. I can record it and then I can edit it if need be, or you can just upload as it is, and that's all built in within the APP. Super Cool. Yes, good, I'm another. I think I'm going to start using this when I like call some of my friends and get into crazy conversations. Yeah, well, that's it. I mean it's a it's amazing way if connecting with people and you can have a thing around eight people. Wows. So it's yeah, it's pretty cool. You don't have a conversation or discussion about something and or connect and one group. Yeah, very cool, man. Well, thank you for inviting me to experience this. HMM, you're very welcome. Thank you for, you know, accepting. To be honest, it's a pleasure to have you want. Yeah, cool man. Just, yeah, my what how this kind of started is that my my younger brother, likes Oliver, trees music, uhh, and I never heard of all of a tree or all of yourself until we mentioned it and we went to Bristol. We saw you live with all of a tree on his good bye farewell tool, which was all amazing. Yeah, I was. I'm yeah, it's really good and ever since not know, I've I've non stopping listening to your music and all of a tree as well. Oh Cool, man, that's awesome. Yeah, like that was we were on the road together for like three months, basically, a little over three. So that being the last night of like that three months of touring, was like just there was a lot of energy, I think, like from from all of us from the touring group, you know, like we were probably releasing a lot of energy that we didn't even realize that we were releasing. And and I think you know, because it's it's a it's a little weird. Like I get messages from people from that Bristol show like all the time and I'm like, I'm like man, there must have been something going on because like like, like, you know, I think, I think back after three months of touring, you're just like Whoa, like I, you know, I'm coming down from like such a crazy experience. But it's interesting, seem to hear all this response from people that were that were there at the show being like Oh my God, you know, that they felt so impacted and that like, you know, that just makes me so happy, like hmm, you know, but I remember feeling like really cool in Bristol, like there's something I don't know. I felt like there's a really crazy like energy field there anyway. I'm not really peaceful and yeah, I don't know, I have to go back. It was raining, the weather...

...was weird. It was like but November. HMM. But I don't know, it feels like a cool place. Yeah, Bristol was pretty chilled. It's not too, you know, much fast pace of life there. It's it's pretty, you know, in the middle compared to the rest of the UK. It's it's quite you know. Yeah, there it's the coast. It's quite chilled as a nice vibe there as well. I've been there a few times. Yeah, but like I where do you live? I currently live in the south coast of the UK. So like Cornwall, so cool. These serve. I've served, but I've actually never served. I should. I've. I first surfers down there right. Yeah, there's loads. There's loads of surface down in bodyboarding. I've done a water skin and Wakeboarding, which is pretty cool. Oh Nice, but I should. I need to use it more. All, you know, when all this blows over, I'll be in the yeah, I know we all need a little bit more connection with nature right now. I feel like yeah, no, I really agree. And Yeah, from what you're saying that we you're tall. When use you know, like that, not in Bristol. When you came on, I felt like I'm quite tuned into my energy and, you know, spirituality. When you started playing the music, it's like the the energy shift that it's like, you know, almost felt it was like, you know, super charged, just just kind of an adults you kind of raise that vibration when all of the tree came that's that's that was definitely the the intention. You know, my it's I've always been like super I'm just a high energy person, like I I'm, I just like I love music that I've always loved music that was just like super high energy. You know, I grew up listening to punk and, like, you know, just like loving punk bands and just like just the frenetic energy of of those, you know, explosions, just really explosions of sound, explosions of experiences, like you know, I love. I love just those like incredible like energy releases and for a long time I was, you know, like sometimes when you're working with that type of when you're working with that type of energy, you want to try and figure out a way to capture it and share it in new ways. And so with nudes I've always been really just trying to hone in on that, on those specific moments of energy releases and then and then share them. And you know, when I first started, I was actually well, you know, start playing that a long time ago. Love. I'm talking about with nudes. Like when I started with nudes, I was playing with two friends and like I had a friend playing drum, like drum pads, like electronic yeah, heads, and then had another friend playing guitar, and I realized like the energy wasn't getting across as like I wanted to, and I really started to, you know, tweak the experience of like what if, like the I am like using myself to channel the energy, because the music is like so full of of crazy energy, you know, like I don't know if you know this, but pretty much, I would say like ninety five percent of the music that I've released and continue to really least is like freestyles. So so like every single vocal is is, for the most part, just like someone having an idea that's just like coming to them like in the moment. And so from from my from what I see as one of my you know, my missions as an artist and a producer is to capture those moments and then share them as like you as like raw as possible, because I think we're so used to hearing music that's that's refined. You know what I mean. People will have an idea and then they'll work on it for six months or they'll work on it for a month, or I like, I have to tune the vocal, I have to do this that, to make this make, you know, clean up all the imperfections and like, from the creative standpoint, that's not what gets you hooked. You get hooked on the reason why you become addicted to making music in the first place. It's because you are so into that rush of that drug,...

...of getting that inspiration. So what I wanted to do and what I strive to do is to share that as much as possible, and so I think that, you know, my what I'm what I'm about, is just sharing that, sharing that raw explosion of energy to in as a vibrational frequency that the the listener, the audience, can ex can connect with themselves, and if it resonates with them, then my my intention in my hope is that it inspires their own you know, and and you know, in a way it's cool, like that's what we're having this conversation, you know what I mean? Like that inspired us to have this conversation. So it's it's super cool, it's super powerful. I think like this is a really interesting, exciting, crazy time on the planet and and I think music is and vibration and like what music can do is so powerful and you know, I'm just like I'm giving myself, I'm giving, you know, a thousand percent of myself to that power right now and like letting it happen, you know. So you know it. When you say that you've felt that, that energy like that, that means a lot to me because, you know, that's why I'm yeah, no, I completely agree and you know, you welcome that's completely Roy and what you said. We've energy music and it really does shift, you know, it does really shift your emotional state and how you feel. It's it's powerful. Yeah, you was saying with how people make music and they they'll make it on then they'll tweak things and then they'll, you know, put off. I'm delivering it straight away because the tweaking things. Like you said, you made the music and it's raw and you do it. You just get it out there. I think like as as human beings, we we got we all we can be like perfectionist sometimes and we want to get it right. Where we're conditions. Yes to you know, get things right and be perfect. Where was like in your music? Quite I've never heard any of a artists make music like yours. I listen to all kinds of music and and you're very authentic. It's very different, it's very it's your style, if that makes sense. It's yeah, and I think that's why it has such an impact as well, because there's so much high energy and you know it's you. It's like you put yourself into your music. Definitely, definitely and like, like I was saying, are going back. Like you know, I've always been this like super high energy person and I remember, like you know, I definitely even had experiences when I was younger of people like criticizing my like energy level. You know, like if I because I'm I'm inherently optimistic, I have a my I'm just tuned to a positive perspective, like you know, and I'm not saying that that's Um, that's just that's just where my focus is, like I'm just I have that when I was born. I'm just tuned into I focus on positive side of things, because everything is a positive and a negative. And, you know, people, I think, like throughout when I was younger, sometimes, you know, we're either intimidated about that or like, you know, you're not realistic. All you're like you know, like no, you can't do that. Well, like, you know, like and and, and I think that it I, like everybody else, developed like a paradigm, absorbed other people's thoughts about that stuff, but nudes has really helped me to you know, and it's not like I held back on that, but I think, like it's just about embracing, embracing that positive perspective and like and like realizing that, like you, everybody's unique inspiration and being perspective is like really important. Yeah, of course, like like and and you have to just like push to have your own your own voice, like your own sound, your own just your own energy, like everything that you do every day should just be like authentically yourself, and that's beautiful and that's, you know, that's what it's. What's interesting. Is like when I called the project dudes I wanted. It's just it's interesting how the name, like...

I feel like the name nudes, just becomes more and more important every you know, every day or every release or as a Rosen artist, because my mission really is to inspire people to connect with that nudit either raw aspect of themselves, that nude creativity, you know, and there's nothing more vulnerable than being so that's, you know, that's why I'm happy that I chose that name for my art moving forward, you know, and if I could tell you another interesting story about that. It's like over and I don't know about you, but I feel like I'm constantly growing, evolving every day, every week, every month, every year. I mean like there are there are times where I feel like I'm making like a leap, where I'm just, you know, think flip a switch. I'm a new person, you know, and I'm like Whoa in the matter of like three months, you know. And so yeah, yeah, no, I I'll completely agree and I think, like what you said, the the name nudes. It's very at its core, isn't it? It's very, you know, being nude is very exposed and vulnerable and you know, you'll you'll call yourself on you what with the yeah, and with what you said in regard to like perspective and energy and, you know, positive and negative, like, as you said, through life experience. We, you know, going out into the world and we have experiences and we have people saying things to us and, you know, if we absorb certain negative things, they become beliefs, then they and then, you know, we become that and it's it's Chump examinling out what's real and what's not and, you know, really kind of tuning into yourself and your energy and your perception and, you know, your thoughts and your mindset and in getting to know yourself. Definitely, definitely, and that yeah, and that's like, you know, that's where I see the purpose of my music is being that, you know, High Energy Force, that Mibration, that that when a listener experiences it, like loosens up some of that programming. You know. That's why I feel, you know, because, like I, I don't control what I make. Like, like I, the music that I make is just like I can't control what happens, you know, like like I just I just like tune into what with inspiration is and like I do my best to cultivate a studio experience that when I work with people that and curate a studio experience that when I work with people at you know, where we kind of create this vortex of vulnerability where just, you know, ideas from about and and, but you can't control what the what? What? What that is, you know, and even through this experience of being in quarantine, I've had a profound realization of you know, because you experience the show in November and you know, my my experience is all about raising vibration, raise the frequency and, you know, and all the stuff and and I and I just like that is just what inspired me. I don't know, like not going to say I don't know where that came from, because I'm super passionate, like you, about about self exploration and and and, you know, spiritual spirituality and and metaphysics and quantum physics and, like, you know, really embracing our magic and our our the magic abilities that all have. So that's always been a part of me, as it is a part of you and a part of everything really. But I didn't know where all this stuff was coming from. And now, when I'm going through this experience and the world is going to the shift. I'm like wow, I'm like the world needs these frequencies, like the world needs these songs, needs these ideas, just, like you said, like to lose sin up the mindset and the thinking and the beliefs and the paradigms, because, like we're shifting and like and like vibration and music, the power of music, can really shift people's perceptions, you know. And so what I'm focusing on now and with like as I was making that my last album, and Wollman music like that I've been making now, is just opening myself up to like sharing whatever is coming to be, like, you know, like I and that's like a lot of the the new songs that I'm...

...releasing and and, you know, a lot of the stuff that I played at that show. And it's a really it's a really interesting experience. I feel really I feel blessed to have that experience, you know, and I I encourage other people to to tap into whatever messages and whatever inspiration is coming to them because like all of all of that is like super important and like the world wants it. If it comes to you, it's because like the world needs it, you know, like you doing this podcast, like you had this inspiration to do this podcast, and it's because, like, the world needs these conversations, the world needs new ideas, you know, and I think it's exciting. Yeah, no, I I completely, you know, relate to what you're saying and I think, you know, oh, together as people world energy, we're all in this together and we have our own perception and mindset and I think what's happening right now is almost like a restart. But it's almost like, yeah, you know, we've not everybody, but you know, a lot of people have been thinking and behave in a certain way and society as a whole, it's just being kind of going too fast. We've been going too fast and not thinking really, I believe, and having time to ourselves and focusing on the things that matter, you know, the our actions upon the few verse and the planet as well, and it kind of makes us realize how kind of, you know, vulnerable we are as people, but strong as well with yeah, what's happening in resilient? Yeah, in the yeah, it was Elian and how we can adapt and overcome and it really kind of unites as a together as people. I think. Yeah, a lot more from all this like, you know, like with your neighbors and the people around you. Yeah, it makes you very grateful, you know, to be alive. I find definitely I don't know about you, but here at every night at eight o'clock in Silver Lake, where I live, like everybody goes out and started yelling and like saying like thank you and like bang on passing pains, and sometimes there's people will like saxophones or trumpets. are like wow, these yeah, dude, it's fucking crazy and like, but it's so beautiful. It's like it's legitimately one of the most beautiful things I've ever experienced to because La is really isolated, so like in the sense that it's a very dense city, but it's also like very you feel, you know, there's a lot of trees, there's a lot of nature, like you don't see a lot of the things around you. There are a lot of things. Yeah, night and basically, yeah, well, what I was going to say is, like it's super cool to go out every night at eight o'clock and you just hear the people around you like howling, like yelling, like it's really and and then you hear like kids saying thank you, like thank you to the to the health workers, and I mean, imagine how beautiful it is that we're living in a time where, you know, hundreds thousands of people are like yelling to show like appreciation and gratitude. Like that's a that's a positive hmm, that's a positive energy released to experience, you know. So I think like if we can, if we tune into somewhere like the beautiful things that are happening right now, it's really crazy. HMM. Yeah, Nice, powerful. No, I completely agree. And US mental how yeah, ones like kind of coming together and, you know, being kind of learning to be grateful, of think as well, you know, learning to be more scray for more in a lie. Yeah, and for the health workers and you know, but like where I live, people clap the hands. I think it's around the yeah, eight o'clock. Yeah, I think it's furs day. They do it one day a week. I think it's one day week, I think. Yeah, where I live on a small coast, it's very quiet and and it's it's almost, like you said, it almost like a charging vibration, almost like energy. You know. Yeah, people coming together and clapping and you do it for a minute and you feel better. You feel better in some way from it. Yeah, yeah, and as human beings, like, I think we're so caught up in, you know, technology destructions, you know, things going on around us so fast that we've kind of lost their way a little bit. And definitely this is kind of, you know, regrounding ourselves and make them as rethink and come together...

...more. And I think, you know, we can only go up from this. Yeah, definitely. I think, like you know, another amazing aspect of right now, and something that I'm, you know, just being more vocal about, is, like I think it's really this is a really incredible time to all these people to have the opportunity to just like be alone with themselves and their frequency and their vibrational state because, like you know, some some people understand that their vibration and they understand their energy and they understand, you know, if you meditate, you have a you have an idea of how your thoughts influence like, you know, your thought patterns and all the stuff. But, like a lot of people are getting this kind of like crash course, rude awakening in being isolated with their energy and and I think that if, if people decide to use this, as you know, as like a crash course in like learning their energy. They can benefit tremendously from this experience because they're tapping into their energy and they're learning. Okay, like what do I need, like what's important to what's important to my existence? What's important to me, you know, and and I that's another reason why I think like, even even if it's just for a month and and or two months or three months and then life tries to go back to normal, I feel like this energetic imprint that's being left in all of us, in our D and it's going to stay forever. And I think that when we realize things get a little crazy, we can always revert back to the piece, to the energy that we've connected with during this time, and I think that's going to be really important for us moving forward and evolve, because, like, there's no doubt about it that human beings need to evolve, MMM quickly, HMM, you know, to move in to thrive into the future, you know, and and now is kind of we're kind of have this opportunity to do just that. HMM. Yeah, no, I massively agree, and I experienced that from you know, as soon as we kind of had a lockdown. I, yeah, had like a you know, crazy mixture of emotions. I had like anxiety and I was a bit stressed because, you know, it's kind of thinking, you know, this is it's in the unknown. It's some certainty. Yeah, and we're not prepared. We don't like to feel uncertain. We require certainty as human beings. So so this frowe like a curveball at s and you then go all your emotions and your energy kind of like bouncing all over the place, you know, saying what's happening right now? Yeah, and it made it forces, I think it's forced us to look at ourselves and to to really take hold of our you know, energy and emotion, and you know, it really forces you to get to know yourself, because only you are in control of your energy and your emotions exactly, exactly and ultimately, your reality, because your energy, your thought energy, is influencing the quantum field around you and producing the life experience that you have. So you that you know, the more that you tap into your your energy, your thoughts, your vibration, your frequencies like, the better you're going to be able to influence, part positively influencing and you know, work with the the energetic feeling around. Yeah, so it's an amazing time, you know, to be, like you said, alive and, you know, part of this living experience and from this happening, I think we know we can just grow from this. I know that death there was a lot of bad happening out there, which you know, happens during a crisis, but for the most part, people at home and doing their jobs. You know, this is an opportunity for us really thing, and I think you know it's an opportunity as we don't get as much downtime in life. It is this mind never a yeah, again in a lifetime, and you know, this is our time to create something. You know, like find out what you're ash about. Well, I've got a few friends who make music and you know I'm just just create,...

...you know, find your passion. Yeah, yeah, always like what did you like off? Got A few questions. Rightly. Yeah, I want how did you reacts when you final the Apple? We're going to use your music. I mean that's crazy. So I've done this. This latest commercial is the fourth iphone campaign that I've been a part of, and important thing to know is with the IPHONE, most of the like. It's pretty much like apple, just like us, as my music. So, like I for this, for this latest campaign the Russia with Kerusha, like I I actually didn't know what it was for. I just like they asked me to send some files and, like I said, I've worked with them in the past. I did the iphone a Rozuka, yeah, Brazuka for the iphone eleven, and that was actually one of the only times where I did, like I was a part of like, you know, developing the song like for the for the campaign, because most of the other like all the other ones, you know, have just been like I made the song and they use it, you know, and in a way that's kind of what happened with Brazuca to like I was working with apple for three weeks creating a custom song, Wha, and then they ended up just using like a different song that I had sent them, which was the demo of Brazuca, and then I went back and like reworked, rework the song to fit with, you know, more of the vote of the of the campaign. But, you know, I'm I'm just I'm grateful. I'm really grateful. You know, I have basically, like I said, my my ultimate goal is to expose as many people as possible with my vibrations, because I channel a lot of intentions and a lot of energy into my into my sounds, and so if I have the opportunity to work with a company like apple, you know, which obviously like you know, every every major worldwide, you know, company as big as them, like they there's, there's, there's, there's, they're, there's, you know, positive and negative associations with all that stuff. I think ultimately apple, the products, how apple encourages people to be creative and it's positive influence on the world and our experience. I'm happy to be aligned with that and I'm also, like I'm I feel extremely blessed to have the opportunity to have my sounds be exposed to hundreds of millions of people around the world through the apple campaigns. So, like, for me it's a win because, like the my sounds and my intentions are being broadcast and reasoned to. You know, like I said, hundreds of millions of people are experiences vibrations and like Kerusia's crazy, crazy sonic. Yeah, it's like like that. That like really like when I finished making that song, I was like I felt something like something in my energy change. I made that and so the fact that they wanted to use that, I was like, okay, like that's cool, like I'm into it and I and honestly, I think the iphone see campaign is really cool. Like, I, HMM, you know, I don't know, it's I'm just again, I think my my work and my collaborations with apple are really cool. I like to encourage people to listen differently. I like to encourage people to think differently and change perspectives and I think, you know, that's apples most as well, and I think that's where we be in the middle and it's a it's a great way to expose that energy out, you know. So I'm, you know, grateful, grateful for that experience with Sir, an amazing experience and opportunity to, you know, to work with when you know, one of the best, you know, tech companies in the world. You know some,...

...yeah, if you Amazon, Google, you know all the rest. It's yes, well, it's funny because I have a song actually that there's a song called Lulala. Yeah, yeah, I do like that one. Yeah, so that's funny. That song. Apple, Samsung and Google have all used it. On on like different. Wow. So it's really fun that're trying to clay, try to copy, and I think actually Amazon tried to use it at a point, but it's like yeah, it's like that song, like for it's just like one of those things like with these, you know, the biggest and most influential tech companies, like I've all used it and and that for me is like also like humbling and like again, really I'm really grateful that I have of this, that my music like resumes in that sphere, you know what I mean, like Google did. It was, you know, it's not. They don't do that. The big law, you know, the being shows the big launches, like apple does. But they did. They did a big conference, you know, I don't know how many people were there, and Hullah was the song. They know that they used for that and it's really cool. It's just really cool, you know, and for if my music is being used by these company tech companies, you know, and the Vibe, like I said, the vibrations are my intentions, and the vibrations of loosening up those paradise and loosening up the think, like I think that's ultimately going to have a positive impact no matter what other stuff is being broadcast, as long as my my intentions house it positivity is being broadcast, like I'm I think it's important. Yeah, no, massively, unlike with your music, is so much high energy and impact. Yes, deliverance, yeah, in your music, like every single song. And you know, you think these companies as well. They're delivering products. They're delivering that so much like crafting a sword, you know, they're they're making these, yeah, products to be the best that they can be and they want, you know, the best, yeah, strongest kind of deliverance of music to go with that. Yeah, you know, like when you said it's good, it's quite interesting the fact, you know, with their values and your values, you know, and that it just makes sense, doesn't it? You know, you wouldn't want to share your music with a company if their values were, you know, alongside yours, because you're very creative person, they're very creative company, and it kind of goes well to synergy. Yeah, and I think that's why apple and I and and I have worked so well together. Yeah, with the past couple of years, for sure, and my with your music, like I've showed it to friends, I showed it to my parents, my my my girlfriend's always playing it now on her phone. Oh cool. And, like you said, like it's it's that connection, isn't it? And that res Resonation. Yeah, resonates for people in their own way. And I watched the Bay of your your live in Stu I'm live the other day and oh cool, I'm another one. Yeah, Nice. Yeah, and comb I was doing, I think I was just sitting down, but I just I felt like going for a run, you know, I listened to that new I fot just, you know, going for yeah, that's the point. You know. I think like the best, like I've always felt like the best part of experiencing nudes music is like the after effect. You know, it's like how you feel, you know what I mean? It's like it's like that energy shot. It's like getting a shot, a booster of like frequency, and then after when you when the music stops, you're like yeah, like you know, you feel you can feeling high off of it, you know. And and like Vibe City Utah, like Vibe City Utah's like it's crazy, like it's if you listen to that whole thing front to back, like it's just like non stop. And when it's over, I feel like your mind is just clear, a little bit more clear. It's like it's like it kind of clears the dust out, you know, and maybe that's why you have been feeling those inspiring effects of like wanting to do a run or like, you know, I've been. I'm getting a ton of messages...

...from people that are like, Oh, I've been drawing listening to your music, or like I've been creating this, or like I dance like and you know, like I there's this choreographers names Brian Freeman. He's an incredible choreographer, like he choreographed toxic, think Britney spears, like some of those like super class sick, MPTV woows, like he choreographed. He also choreographed with Melody Martinez on her the K K through twelve, and and he works, he does, he's done to choreography classes with do your thing and loves and like I watch that and I watch like all these kids like dancing to this music and I'm like wow, that's like so that's just cool. It's just cool to see how, like the music is inspiring people's creativity, you know, or action, or action, you know, and whist with my new album that I'm releasing through singles throughout this year. It's called nudity worldwide and, like you know, my it's basically everything that I'm talking about but, like you know, up the level as far as, like what my intentions are, as far as it's spreading high frequency, positive love, joy, excitement, you know, into into the frequency of the earth, you know, and and sending that out to as many people that want to experience that, because I feel like for us to create a better world, we need to be creative, and there's no better way to be creative and be in touch with your own creativity than by being exposed to that rock creative aspect, you know what I mean? So people can recognize it, you know, like, I don't know. Yeah, that's that's the first song I when I when I came back home and I got until music, was the first song I listened to, and in one of my mavorite ones. Yeah, its songs, insane. I. Yeah, me too, me too. I like it's crazy and, like you know, that's that's a freestyle. Like that song more or less was done in like, wow, twenty minutes and and and like like literally every vocal on that is a freestyle. That's not me free sign, that's my friend night, one of my like closest collaborators, Sean, and but basically what happened was, like we just went into the kitchen, like I had programmed a drum beat and programmed, you know, I picked up an Acoustic Guitar, he took the wireless mic and we just I just just press record for six minutes, I would I was working in my like kitchen at the time, so like my laptop was just like set up in my kitchen and and we just pressed record and then, like what I do is like in those moments, like will then go through and then like chop up the freestyle to organize it to make it sound like a song. So, like it didn't just come out like that. It came out in different parts over six minutes, and then I went through and picked out and arranged those parts to be what the song was. And I also have to say that so that happened like within twenty minutes. And then I took the idea and I was in Berlin and I was meeting up with a friend, a really great producer that I love to work with, and I had this song. I was like, you know, I was like, I feel like we should work on this idea together. So I just played in the track and then basically we just like took took what I did in those twenty minutes and then we just like we just like cleaned it up and built around it, you know. So we just kind of like organized it. And Yeah, just it's crazy, like it's just those flashes of energy, you know, and there's so much information, which inspiration in there, like if you open yourself up to it, you know, and that's why I always use that mind, body soul music as an example, because like that, if you like tap into what that's got going. Yeah, it's crazy, though, like it's a you know, it's amazing music and live I often listen to it while some driving and and I remember I once how I was driving somewhere, I was going back my girlfriends, and I notice I got home quicker than I usually do and I was playing ill. So it's I don't don't sqeet, but I just, yeah, I was...

...almost like a zone and that sat that song, that Song took me someway. Yeah, and it was do if it's crazy and it's like work, I feel I almost super charge when if I'm driving a listen, start, you know your music and it definitely does shift your vibration and your emotional state. And you know, like you said, that's the power of music. And you know your kind of music. It's high intensity and it's powerful and she want to yeah out and get up and do something, and it must be very, yeah, you know, rewarding to be able to provide value to people, people in that way and, you know, people to be motivated to do things. You know, that's that's what it's all about, isn't it? It's about definitely. Well, I think, like you know, I think it's really important to I think it's really important for what any in anything that people do. It's like for there to be a purpose now serves that serves other people, like you know. I mean like there's there's there's something about serving yourself and being, you know, following your what's best for you, and like that's it's there's nothing wrong with being selfish in the point that you want to follow your highest excitement and nothing else matters more than your highest joy in highest excitement. I totally agree. But once you once you really tap into what that is, you know like for me, like it's making music and performing and all that stuff, like that's being an artist, and being a music artist is my highest excitement. And when you once you tap into that, it's like, okay, then, how do I use that to to uplift and like and and and in power and and, you know, provide a service to people, you know. And so that's why I made nudes focused around like the energetic experience, because it's like that's how I see that I can help and contribute something positive to to the sphere. You know what I mean? I think like I think if something doesn't like positively influence and and and provide like a positive service for for for people, for an audience, for an experience, then like it just doesn't the world just doesn't need it as much. And now, as the world changes and we're going through this like really chaotic time of Paradigm Shifting and Paradigm Sawing the part, I feel like those experiences are becoming less and less and less, you know, and and that's why I like I I look at something like, you know, to crazy right and like I'm in La. I'm in La Right. So like in them La Music Business, it's like you know, Tick Tock, Tick Tock, Tick Tock, and like or like, you know, people are just like focused on okay, you get a song on tick tock or whatever, like, you know, it's a big tick Tock H it's big on Tick Tock. But like, and I I think that, like there are songs that can bring like joy to people and distraction. That's cool, but like, what's the ultimate service about having a song that's like that's like, you know, oh on board, or like, Oh, I'm made a you know, like like cooking eggs in my house, cooking eggs in my house. It's like that's that's not really like I don't really think that's respecting the power of what music can do. And so, like that's why, with my music I just got on the complete other way. It's like I'm just trying to use this actual power and create an experience that like that, you know, makes make someone drive, you know, get home faster, or make someone want to go for a run, or make someone want to improve their life situation, you know, or be creative. And that's what the mantra of my experiences and I think, I don't know, I just encourage I encourage people to create that plot from that perspective, because it's so it feels so good, like you don't have to. You don't doubt, mm, what you're doing. You know what I mean? You just yeah, let's lie with what you said. How you connect with yourself and you've recognized, you know, your your where your energy flows, you know, through your music, and I think like when you connect with that, yeah, when the penny drops, almost you need to follow it, don't do? You need to tune into and become aware of. Definitely exactly I think a lot of people around the world right now. You know, it's going to be interesting to see what comes out of...

...this. Like there's going to be, you know, guaranteed new companies, new startups, new ideas, new artists, because, yeah, throughout this you know, this time and now, people are probably discovering themselves that bit more and tapping into things. Yeah, and now big time. You know, like as human beings, like we will hit all here for a reason and we've all got our own purpose and I think like I mean, if something makes somebody happy, then I think, you know, go ahead and do that, but if something isn't making you happy, yeah, you know, you can change that. And and and I don't think we're designed to be like that way. You know, like you said, by by, like if you wasn't doing your music and doing what you do, you wouldn't be having the positive impact that you are doing. You know, I, like and so many people out there who probably could be doing things up they want to do deep down. You know, to me, going to affects people in the positive way. Definitely. And you know, like I speaking to that. It's like people. I think that, like no one, everybody's life situation is different, you know, like everybody's. Everybody has. I personally believe that everybody, we're all eat, everybody's equal in in the you know, the the strengths and the weaknesses that we have. You know, things that might be perceived as like or adversity right, like, but it's all relative. It's all equal, like, everybody's equal, like and you know, if you feel like, Oh, you know, you're not able to do you're not able to, you know, do the art that you want to do because you don't have enough money to do it or whatever, it's like, I promise you that if you just give yourself a hundred percent to what what your passion is that the universe is going to take care of you and bring you like everything that you need, you know, and everything that you need to do it in every moment. So, like if it's just you have to think about a baby steps, you know, it's one at a time, one step at a time, one step at a time, and, like you know, sometimes it might seem really daunting for the big things that people want to accomplish, but it's like just focus on those little steps and in every step the universe is going to take care of you if you let it, if you've let it, if you're open to it. I you know, it's like and I just encourage people every step of the way, like just do it, just just go just like one step at a time, you know. And for all those people that are are wanting to do something new and change things in their life that don't make them happy, it's like just do it, like you don't have to, you don't have to like know how you're going to get there. You just got to know, like you know, I had a friend said to me one time that sometimes you have to jump and just trust that the net is there and and I think that that is a really incredible perspective to have when you're doing anything. It's like just jump, like, you know, like no matter what happens, like you're good, like just just keep going, just keep jumping, you know. And you know, like I did a post on instagram like two days ago where I was talking about, you know, people being infinite and like you are infinite. Your energy is infinite, and the reason why I think that's such an important concept to understand is that when you realize that your energy is infinite, you're less likely to be absorbed and consumed by different fears. You know, I think the number one fear people who have is the fear of death. But if you if you become comfortable with the idea that your energy is never does never, never goes away, you're experiencing this physical body is going to end, but your energy and who you really are is not. So that that should help eliminate a fear of death, you know, and fear of because when you can realize that your energy is infinite and you're in you may have a limited time in this body, it's like go like do things, like do what you want to, just do it again and again. And I also, you know, my perspective is that I believe that, you know, when we leave this we leave this world when we're supposed to leave this world. Like every like you leave this world exactly exactly when you you come into this world with an agreement of when you're leaving, you know, and and I think it's really important to just accept that. Yeah, and like never think about it,...

...you know, like don't think about it, like just live your life. Like just live your life and realize that like, you know, you, yeah, you're just here to do what to do, what you need to do, and like that's it. Like don't worry about anything else. And like what else is, you know, what's the biggest worry? Or like, oh, something's going to happen to you will like don't worry, everything's going to be fine, like everything's going to be exactly the way it's supposed to be. So just just enjoy this experience, you know. And I hope, I. Yeah, it's not that I hope, but I just I I hope more and more people connect that idea, because if we realize that like we're taking care of in a way, I think people will are like more likely to to do their things that they love. Spend more time doing on the things that they love, because I think so many, all of the problems of this world, in our societies, are are because people are put into fear. You know, our fear is what influences people to do things. Fear is what influences, you know, people to, you know, to create that sense of lack and to create a, you know, income inequalities, because fear is because people fear that all I need to have more than this person. I need. It's like, no, we can all have we all have enough that we need. We all have everything that we need. There's no need to have something more than someone else. You know what I mean? Just like just like focus on like what do you need for your experience, you know, and and when we can eliminate fear, I think the world will really change in a positive way, or at least a personal world. Like do what you can on a personal level to eliminate the fear from your life. And I'm just like, I would like to suggest two things to you, Adam, which is, I don't know, I watch Guya. Do you? Do you have Gaya the chat? Yeah, it's like as neihorhood of enough, you're never good of shows. Yeah, I'll send you, I'll send you a link. Is Game Changer, man. It's the like the best thing ever. There's a show on there called missing links with Greg Braden. Yeah, it's like my favorite show ever. I'm going to send you like that. You should watch that whole series. But like you're going to be like you're going to take everything in the next level after that, like you know. And there I read those an there's a book called thing Maas relasable. Yeah, so I think. Yeah, and the best my favorite part about that book is about the fears. It's about analyzing the six basic fears that control the way that that influence our actions, you know, and how, like a fear of criticism or a fear of death or a fear of ill health, if your poverty influences the choices that you make. And and it helps you understand which fears are influencing your decisions. And when you understand what fears are influencing your decisions, then you could look them straight on and eliminate them. You know, it's by shining a light on on the fear that that we can eliminate it, you know. So I encourage anyone to check those really, really motivating and, you know, really nice. What you just said, like you in a really hits the nail on the head with you know, human the human beings and our emotions and our thoughts and our keepers contained in our current situation. And now what you said. We fear as well, fears like you know, there's a good if you had seen the acronym, and it's false evidence appearing real als, false evidence appearing re force, and that's basically like fear broken down, Uh Huh. And fear, you know, like you said, fear of death and fear of failure and feel fear of making it or not making it. It's, you know, these are beliefs and, you know, emotions that we taken from, you know, life experiences or just, you know, mindset and, like you said, with death. And you know, death is one of the big, big things out there that you know, a lot of is afraid of because, you know, people don't want to die. Yeah, in like what you said. You know, it's completely true, and I agree with that as well, that we don't stop, we don't just leave and then that's it. I yeah, I mean I know from expirit I've had, yeah, experiences where...

I've picked up on certain energies I've, you know, to do with spirits and things like that, like superna. Yeah, is there? I wanted I had one. I remember like kind of I always kind of pick up on things if I'm not emotionally okay, if lot my energy levels aren't right, it's when I kind of draw things. And I went through a break up a couple of years ago and I wasn't okay and I just remember like hearing like, you know, footsteps, and I remember just I could just tell somethings around me, you know, and I know I heard like a yeah, a few knocks on my window sill, and this four o'clock in the morning, and I've had a few other experiences as well, but it just kind of reassured me that, you know, there is life, you know, after this, and yeah, it's not something to be afraid of, you know, like it's there's so much more. Definitely. Well, you know what I think you see us like something that I think is really important to to touch upon, especially because, like you know, I'm a music producer right. I make music, I'm a music I'm an artist that spends most of my time in the in the sphere of like working with music and and I think, like you know what I want. I think, I don't know. Just to clear up any if people are curious about like, okay, why is this music producer care so much about like raising the frequency and consciousness and and all this other stuff? Well, for me, it's it's extremely connected and it's because I've spent so much of my life absorbing sounds and like working with sounds and frequencies and like and like playing with you, playing with this, I'm with with what sound is, playing with sound, just the experience that you start to realize that, like, there's so much more, there's so much happening around us, that that like we just because you can't see things like doesn't mean that it's not there. And and also, and the best thing that like really open my eyes. Wasn't finish this book because it's very in depth, but I'd like you know, and it's just like it was a long it's very wordy. I really like this author, name Stephen Harod Buhner. He's a up, he's like a HMM, he specializes in like plants and like plant medicine. He's like a healer and and this book is all about communicating with plants, and I'm really into the communicating with plants. But the thing that that really opened, that really open myself up to this, was reading about how he describes that we're born with the ability to feel the information from plants. But I don't think it's just plants, I think it's everything. Yeah, but we but we filter it out and anybody that works, anybody that works with music or, you know, producing or engineering, knows that like this, it's filled. There's filters, right. So, like when you listened, if you for someone who has no idea what I'm talking about, when you hear like a DJ set in the DJ like doesn't affect we're thing in the opens it up and, like you know, that's just filtering out the sounds, filtering out frequencies, and it's changing your experience. And you know you can. You can filter sounds. So there are parts of those sounds that don't exist anymore, but it doesn't mean that they're still not there. You know, and if you can open up, you can open up the frequency levels, you can experience more. You open up your band with, you open up your frequency range, you can experience more of the of the vibrations that are lower, that you're not experiencing and you can open up your filter to experience more the high your vibrations, you know, and and you know just, you know, even with beings or angels or other people in your experience, like they're just they're just different frequency levels. So you can't see them, you can't hear them, but doesn't mean that they're not there. And sometimes we feel them and we're like, you know that, you know, you know that that sound that you hurt of your window was was something, but it's just because, like, your brain is filtering out every it's filtering out things to give you the perspective that you have. But you can, you can releaset have filter, you can change that filter, you know, and that's part...

...of the reason, like you know, in with my music, I keep a lot of sounds, like there are a lot of people that you know my music. Maybe at times there are moments where it's like, oh, that's it's very aggressive or like it's really like hurts my ears, but it's just because we, like we're used to filtering out those higher frequencies, those sounds that are normally like our brains filter out and so part of the reason why I keep that stuff there is because it forces from ears to open its perspective. You know, it's IT forces your ears to expand the filter. So that's why, if you pat if you expose yourself to that, it opens your filter up, you know. And and I'm just like, you know, the point of that was just to say that, like there are there's watch around us at all times, that if we just like focus on opening up our filters and letting, you know, our filters be more open to receiving information, then we're going to be really, I don't chanted, by the results. Yeah, I co completely resonate war your we've said, agree and I think like we're all on frequencies. Are we almost like radio on tiens, all omitting certain frequencies? And Yeah, I feel this now, you know, even just saying talking to you, I feel like, you know, we're on a certain frequency, connected, talking, you know, all off devices. Yeah, yeah, but like literally, literally, because that's exactly what doing through Wifi. You know, that's all this stuff is like. It's all just like there's just an infinite number of frequencies. So like in this particular frequency range that we're talking you know, from Los Angeles to Cornwall, like, you know what I mean. It's just we're just this, we're using this APP to connect to a frequency that connects us, like that's all it is. So it's like if that's possible, like what, what other frequency communications possible? And I think you definitely feel now when you're around light minded people. That's something I've definitely tuned into, you know, the past couple of years while by energy, my time and my free you can see I don't. You know, I'm I'm very conscious of where I put that and around, and I think when you're around people don't a similar to you on the same wave length, you you you notice it. It's like a magnet. You know that might be locations. You know, you can places people. The list goes on early but, like you know, we're not balm with a user money. This is the crazy thing. And we, you know, we we discover this. You know, if you kind of choose to own you, you choose to, you know, tune into yourself and what's happening on around you. Yeah, because, yeah, and you know another thing I think is really interesting to touch upon, and it's something like I'm that I'm like you know, figuring out ways to express and communicate more and more. But it's just like the idea of your paradigm. Like I think it's really important for people to understand that the programs that control ninety four five percent of your life are formed between the ages of like one and seven. So by the time you're seven years old, your computer program that basically like governs your entire life is formed. But you can change that program and and I think like we need to encourage more and more people to just understand the fact that, like they're subconscious programting that they were that they were exposed to between the ages of one and seven, are controlling their vibrational frequency. But you can change that and, like I think we need to just encourage people to connect with that concept because when, when we connect to that concept, we realize like Oh, like, I was operating like this. I don't want to do that, like I don't want to have that experience, you know, like I don't want to I don't want to live like that. Like I want to change this about my program and then we can you know, it just opens it just opens ourselves up to a lot more possibilities and and improving the quality of our life experience when we realize that we can't have an impact on the subconscious programming that's HMM, that's deeply ingrained in us and there's nobody to start figuring. Yeah, this is a really true those isn't like? You know, we we absorb with like spongs almost. I was thinking of this today. I was like, humans like will like sponges. We we absorb. You know. Well,...

...we're around and who are way and what you choose to look, what you choose to read and do. And I've noticed that with the you know, the media. Well, I limit my news and take all of scum for in the morning. Okay, that's yeah, Oh, don't even do that, man, take a break. I haven't. I stopped watching the news. Look, I'm not watching not that I watched the news, I stopped even just like I do. I actually had to delete twitter off my phone because, like you know, I was checking twitter. But then, you know, you open up twitter and you see all this shit and you're like, no one, I don't need this, doesn't need to affect me. Like you know, if you really want to read about it, like cool, but you know what, you don't. That doesn't have to affect your life experience, like all that shit that's going on, like it doesn't have to affect your day to day life, and especially in the morning, like like don't. I mean I again everybody, you do whatever you want, you do whatever is your highest excitement, if you if it's a part of your routine, you know, and you feel it's an important part of your to do it. But I would say, like don't, don't, don't last yourself in the morning with that type of information because, yeah, forces the reality that you're going to live in for the rest of the day. You know, so rather than like waking up and just being like okay, like you know what, what? What do? I what's good for my energy today. But all because you're being exposed to like you know, there's so much, there's so much like that, you know. I mean that information is there's so much behind that information. You know, there's so much intention and energy behind that information and it has such a deep impact in our psyche that, like I will you look up care forward with how you, yeah, how you, because like intact you first thing in the morning. It's like if you're thinking a good fort or you feel good, that impacts for our your day doesn't. It's almost like a domino effect. It's like if you hit your toe on something at her thing in the morning, that could then lead to say, you know something else, but now it's is it is very important what you look at, what you listen to. And I was just going to say I saw your like hypnosis video, which is really, really good. Yeah, it's something like this's amazing and cool. I really like it and cool. My Mom's a psychophopist and she does hypnosis and things like that, and I've listened hip nosis on Internet before a few times. So, yeah, it's really that that video is really good enough in that will help a lot of people, you know, who are, you know, through this time as well. It's very grounding. Yeah, you know, like what I what I part of the reason why I love sharing these ideas with you know, the audience that you know, comes to expres to you know, experience my universe, is because, like I just I want to plant as many seeds as possible, you know. So if I do the guided me meditation with the Purple Energy, you know, if if there's someone that like has no idea about what that's doing, but it just exposes them to the idea of, like, Oh, I can visualize energy moving through my body. That's a success, that's a that's a that's a positive influence on the planet, even if it's just one person, you know. And it's like, you know, I don't know, I'm yeah, because you came to the show with your brother, and if he's your brother and your mom is a Hypno hypnotherapist, then like you guys are very open minded. So maybe me talking about frequencies or raising your vibration or like your thoughts create your reality or, like, you know, turning up the goddess way, like, maybe those aren't like strange concepts to him. But, like I hope that, like you know, if that, if those ideas can just like be circulated among the younger audience and like, like you know, when kids are like, you know, in high school or you know, or a little older, you know, coming into this world with with having a little bit of that knowledge, like I feel that's what excites me, like you know, I want to share that because it's it's really empowering and, yeah, really useful information and and that's why I made that...

Nice, really, you know, really nice and really helpful and quite powerful because, like you know, with energy and like our forts and belief systems, we, you know, we can heal ourselves, can't way, and we can heal over people through, you know, Osis and helping people to shift their emotional state and their belief system. And you know, I think you know, what you're doing is having that impact, I think, in a point, you know, in a positive way and, like you said, with like filters on things and frequencies. I've got one of these like Tibetan chime bolls. We've ever seen them before, and it's prices like a whatever copper or brass bowler and you, yeah, I've got one of those. When you hit it, Oh, you, the fair the stick around, it is crazy like vibration. And I did it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it tune to a specific fate? I I don't know. I like what Chakra? It's like Brassy Brown. What color is the ball? And I did it. I felt I felt quite stressed before I did it and I did it and afterwards I felt really strong range and I was like something shifted in me. Just it's yeah, definitely, man, no, I've never heard of that. Have you ever been to a sound bath before. Oh Man, see, like you know, this is part of the reason why I love La and California so much is it's like we have so much there's so much exposure to all these types of things, you know, like so, I have some friends that do this thing called modular sound bath and, you know, it's a they you know, one of them plays crystal bowls, brandy, she plays the crystal bowls, and then Christian plays like a modular synth and they work together and they play this because really they you know, they do these sound baths that are all like about like different shockers. Like they just did one for the new moon and they did it on Youtube and I thought it was great, and that's why telling you about it, because you can tune into their youtube and like and like follow the sound bath. But I mean, like basically, what it is is it's frequencies that, you know, through the crystal bowls and through the modular synth, that like really resonate with your body and helped to shift your vibrational state, you know. And and the more people like to play with these concepts, like you realize like it's just it's just try it. It's like just try stuff like. Yeah, I mean it shows you that, you know, we don't need drugs, we don't need certain pharmacy who's calls to make us better. And like with crystals and energy and you know the things we're talking about, it really can, you know, help in so many ways. And I've got caught. So I've got like I've always kind of been into crystals, like I've got a clear, clear quarts, and I'm the first. Yeah, recently just ordered some up Obsidian, black OBSIDIAN, and I bought my girlfriend, Oh nice. Yeah, yeah, I've been holding as system. It's a really, really good crystal. Yeah, and recently I bought my girlfriend, you know, the one of those syt lumps. Yeah, and I yeah, just the so grounding and really calm. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the Himalayan sil lamb. So, I mean, you know, like, yeah, people don't know what these things are and it's yeah, yeah, we have to educate just but it's amazing, you know, connecting you and talking about these things, because this is like, you know, something I think needs to get out there hundred percent, and that's why I was excited to talk to you and share that information, you know, and expand, expand the network expand the community of you know, sharing this information because like it's really useful, it's really beneficial and like it feels really good to incorporate the stuff. Like it feels really good, you know. And Yeah, I just like I just encourage anybody who, if you have any curiosity towards anything, to just ex experience it...

...and play with it, you know. And, like you said, like it has nothing to do with drugs, you know, like if you need to use a drug to like to like push you towards a certain experience, like, like, then you should do that if you feel you need to do that. But like we're talking about has nothing to do with that. Like and the more that you play with with an experience, the things that we're talking about here, like the lessons you need to you need to into. Yeah, you need to do you need anything else to make you feel good, you know. And like what else could you want in this experience then to just like feel good all stuff. That's that's completely yeah, and, like you know, we don't also, I'm going, yeah, drink and do drugs or you know, and could certain things, you know, once you top into that. Nah, of course. Yeah, no, Sir, really I've got a few questions as okay, if I just just few. But Yeah, how did you how did you meet all of the trait? How did you come to lot connects with basically all over. So we had a mutual friend. Oliver was going to like art school and I was going like, you know, I just we just had a friend and my middle name is ocean and his middle name is tree. So so they're like, Oh, you guys should meet, you know. And so our friend, our mutual friend, like had a barbecue like just to have just to bring us together, and and we just like yeah, well, you know, the whole purpose of this barbecue is just for the two of us to hang out and we we like soon as we met, like we went and our friend had this like super cool art warehouse's like magical, magical, magical place and like really like nothing you ever saw before. Like it's just his name's Alan Chin and he's an incredible artist. But and you should like if you follow them an Instagram, Allan Chin are like maybe go all the way back like a couple of years. You can see some of the pictures from this warehouse. Was a really cool place and he called it downy projects and anyway. So he brought us together and Oliver and I just like, you know, clicked instantly, like we just, you know, it was like one of those we just got so deep and and then I think like a week or two later, he came over and he recorded my not this on my mind is in my apartment and and the funny thing about that song is that it was I was I record a lot with a wireless mic and, like I said, it's I do a lot of stuff with like you know, it's all freestyle. So the first thing that Oliver said in the Mina was like my mind is that, and I was like, oh, that's perfect. I was like I told him I saw you were done, dude, like we don't need to do any more vocals. And he wanted to record more, but I didn't end up using any of it. I just use the stone. That's why their car kind of aren't really any lyrics and that song. But like that's what I love is because I want the I want the listener to create their own experience. I want the listener to like put meaning to whatever is being said. But because it's just an idea, it's just a free out, just the inspiration and I think, like the other thing that's great about what we're talking about paradigms and like you know, these, you know my mind is and then like yeah, thank it's like you, you answer the question and and I think that's song is that's one of my favorite songs I've ever done and I think it's really, really, really special and it was just an incredible, incredible experience. And then, you know, I'll earn work lots of other things after that. And you know, like he's he's just a really great, great friend, and I really value our friends. That's what it's about, isn't it is having, you know, there's connections with people that you really follow them connect with and you can have an impact on each other's life in some way. YEA's a boy and you can come click and come together and put some of it out. The time going to have in big time. Not Enough St US...

...something that you both do and I think that's something that you both do together as well. Yeah, that's why I think it's really cool that we are connected and why we, you know, just any time that we get to work together or travel together or hanging together is really special because, like you know, it's, like you said, that one the first day that we connected, like that's what made it so special, is that we both were really focused on that, making that positive impact, changing things, you know, and he does it in his way and I do it in my way and it's just utual connection. We have this really cool respect. Yeah, and just like mutual connection like that we're both doing. This is pretty amazing as well because, like, your music is very deep and his music is quite deep as well, like, like when of my brothers first show me one of his music videos before I went to Bristol, I was like, he showed me that, he showed me her, I think it was. Yeah, which one was it? And I watched it. I was like, I think it's the best one. It's so yeah, because I've I watched it once. I think that I had to replay it about five times, and because at first I was like what is this guy doing, like who, yeah, why is this happening? What is this? And that's what my brain was kind of like coming, no, going off. Yeah, and then I was like no, but the lyrics here, this there's something hell, you know, and Oh yeah, big time, big time. That's the best part about all his music is like it's the lyrics are really, you know, they really healing and they really like uplifting, you know, and like my favorite song of his is the you know, the first song he put out, all I got, which is talking about you know, I just believe in kindness. I just believe in mindfulness. Like watching that song like every night on tour and seeing kids like, you know, press the bi can felcaid for like an hour and a half and then that song comes on and and they I just see this smile on their faces and I'm just like this is amazing, like this is super beautiful, and those are the moments where I'm just like really proud of and happy. That's, you know, my first one is about, isn't it? It's being, you know, having not grat to choose and and an accepting, you know, like yeah, over people's journeys and not, because some people out there can be resentful being all that person's better than you know. Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, you have to eliminate that, because knowing like as quickly as possible, and we all are guilty of it, you know. We all have felt like that before, like you know, but but you have, because that's the little attraction. Isn't a I'm not sly. I've got I've seen some people who have worked or sometimes. Yeah, and I've seen the all in a call, all that guys that you know XY. Is that because he's got a car? And I'm like, well, you have to accept him having that call. For you to have that call yourself one thing. You can't block that out, because you'll never have that if you. Yeah, you never spawn that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you want it. You want to surround yourself with as many positive feelings. You know, it's like things that you want. You have to put as many positive attachments to that as past and I think that's last want to be key things with social media as well, and that's something I think you know, like with positive and negative. Like you go through comments and there's a lot of negative, but then through the negative there's a lot of positive as well, and it's filtering out, you know, the the bad stuff and only focus on the good, isn't it? And all end the bat the Baden. Yeah, yeah, yeah, social media is an interesting yeah, it's a tool. Isn't an interesting experience. It's really in yeah, it's a tool. I just think that. I think people should just be aware of like and like just be you know, just, yeah, be more aware of like how what they're exposing themselves to, you, you know. I mean, and what letting influence and like imprint, you know. So just be mindful of like what you're letting imprint you.

Like, you know, there's nothing wrong. is like following things or looking at stuff, but like if it's distracting you from your present moment, like, that's not a good thing. If it's causing you to to create a comparison between your situation somewhere else, like, that's not a good thing. Like, if it inspires, you cool, if it, if it's you know, like, but if it's creating a negative feeling, any negative feeling, that it's not good and you should eliminate it, you know, and limit your consumption, you know, like, yeah, I don't know, that's sort of mine. Yeah, it stop balance, isn't it? You know, like because I was posting a load of content on social media past week and then during the weekend I was like, you know, I'm just gonna push them down time and just not, HMM, stop balance, isn't it? Yeah, yes, is. Are you okay? For time and things. You okay, yeah, sure, like I would just say like yeah, of course you have questions that you want me to just check them of you. I think you feel busy old you've got yeah, for sure. I mean you know, I think like yeah, another like sweet minutes or something. That's also say, while your album covers all live very unique and they yeah, they really kept your attention and a lot ready colorful and yeah, but what's the idea behind that? What's made you kind of want to well, there's a few aspects to it. One is that I woke up one day and was like I want to make album artwork with cantalopes. So that was that was the main thing. It was just like I just esthetically like really inspired by thick a cantalope, like and I and and for me, like I don't know, I just esthetically I think that they're just like so cool and like, but I don't know, I feel like a really special connection with them because, like when I was growing up, my mom like always had a cantlope like in the kitchen. Sometimes, like she would cut it up and like force me to eat it and and like but there's it's but it's also like so good, like the orange. There's nothing like that color orange, like when you open it up, you know, and it's so for you, it's so healthy, it's so like healing to your stomach, you know, and so like there's that aspect of it. I also like esthetic of it, like, you know, nudes, and there's this like mm cantaloupe, which does have the sexual aspect of it, you know. But for me the main thing that I've always seen it as is like the CANTALOPE is my universe. So like every cantalope is like that, the planet of like what the sound is, because, like my music, every release I do is so different and I'm trying to like change my sound like every single time I release a song. And so it's like every slice of the cantaloupe, like as the cantaloup, opens up in different ways. It's like these are just different experiences, you know, and there's that like contradiction between like this one thing, you know, this this melon, but like how many? I don't know. It's super out there. It's really it's just like it's it's it's a it's a it's an interesting experience, but for me it's just about, you know, each melon and each cover just represents like a different experience that you're going to have, you know, coming from from the same melon universe. You know, I just didn't want to put I just didn't want to like put myself like, you know, my it's like I said, because it's like there's no ego, it like attachment connection, like with my music at all really, you know, and I think that's actually pretty interesting and I never really thought about it. But, like you know, I I sing on some songs, some songs I sing on most songs I don't, but it's like it's all my expression. It's an expression of my individuality. But like, but I've kind of like my ego from it and it's a really interesting experiment because, you know, I think music is so intertwined with ego, you know, and like...

...you know, Oliver Trees Caracter is like one million percent ego and it's like the exaggeration of the EGO. It's like the hyper exaggeration of the EGO and like, you know, you look at these like rock stars and it's like, you know, historically there's so much for a lot of a lot of people. There's so much like there's such a like there's a balance of like this ego of quality, you know, and and with especially with my album covers and when I'm making the music, it's just so removed, you know. It's just like so from a different place. So I think that's why I continue to dust. That's for we to do. is very deep, raw kind of why you've just thought, you but you know, not sure as well, true to your you know, true to yourself, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, and you know, there's one other thing that I wanted to say about that, which was there's this like white stripes documentary called under the Great White North, and Jack White talks about like placing limitations on yourself and how that like is really important for creativity. And so, like, you know, on the stage, like he'll put like one guitar pick like on the on the amp, like across the stage, or like, you know, like he's he separates the instruments around the stage in a way that like limitates. In number one, they only were certain colors, which is a limitation. They only play in a certain scale, which is a limitation, and for me, like with that Mel and artwork, that was like a limitation of like hey, you have to get creative with your album art work. So, like, what do you say? Only using a melon as your art, you know. So that was like a challenge for me to be like to to and side some base cream. That's amazing, because I'm I've got your music on my I'm as a music low, your albums and stuff and up and I was I was looking through themse I was playing music today. Oh, I was like, is that the same? Because all is not the same fruit, and I was like looking through the man, like you said, like you've created all these different covers with the same thing. It's amazing and that's quite a good way, I suppose. Is What isn't it to challenge yourself in that, in that way, and that's how that's how we grow, isn't it? Yeah, you know, as as a human being. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Challenges expand our perceptions of what something can be, and that's why the art, like I just the visual loop for my next single that's coming out in May just got finished and it's it's a cantaloge and it's so like I think it's one of my favorite ones and if you go to my instagram today, I'm if you saw that melon planet. That's like splitting apart and like I'm doing, you know, nudity worldwide. This whole album that I'm releasing now is is you know about this, like you know, ideal world that I want to create, that I'm creating, that I am creating. And Yeah, it's cool to see this planet, this melon planet, and there's all these different like ways that I'm going to Nice. It's really amazing and it's cool, some cool, fascinating. We know what you can what you can do when you know, when you put your imagination into something and create some from some and so simple as a melon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's what you know. Going back to like I said, it's just following that inspiration, like when you get a download of inspiration, like follow it, and like I had that inspiration for the you know, we doing artwork with melons and I just like had to follow it, I app yeah, just think tumbling to what it is and follow us the way. It is like kind of a question as while I I feel music videos like what you with your music, there's so much going on with with the music videos as well. There's a lot going on and yeah, it's so different and so unique in its own way, just like yours. On all of a trees music videos. You know, there's no one else, yeah, doing what you two guys are doing. You know, like I saw hm one of your music videos. It's in a motel room. Yeah, yeah, you know, there's a whole visual album for VOE UTAH. So every single song has a...

...video. Now, like collaboration with so whoa so okay, crystal that luckily it's okay. But so what's interesting about that is so purvibes. SEE UTAH. I what happened was I was sitting at this cafe in Holway with my friend Sean collaborate, I work with a lot, and my wife, Audrey, and she's from France, and we were at this French cafe and sheet sat next to this front other French lady and they were talking, like I was talking with Sean and she was talking with this this other French lady and and and the girl. When she was talking to you girl, and how she was I don't want to say lady, that puts her too old. I know whatever, but she was like she's like, Oh, you guys should work with this photographer, Parker Day and so so she like gave us, she introduced us to Parker over email, and I email at the same time that I just did like Ulalah and was like working on like the album vibes of the Utah, and I was like hey, Parker, like do you want to do a photo shoot? And she was like, oh no, you know what, I don't know. I don't know exactly if I met with Parker first or like we emailed. Parking was like, Hey, we can work with you. So we went to a juice bar and and we sat and we had a juice and we just connected and so, okay, so, yeah, so this is why it's connected. Yeah, so she had she shoots all of all ours photos, like all of Oliver's photos are also shot by Parker, and she's like, Oh, like you work, you shoot. That was like she was like you work with, you know, an artist that I like shoot, and I was like Oh, interesting, you know. So we had that connection and then I went home and it was just about doing a photo shoot actually for me, like I wanted her to do a photo shoot of mutes and then and then I had an idea. I was like, Hey, do you want to like do a music whow and she was like yeah, sure, and she'd never done a music video before. And and then I was like start working on the album and I was like hey, you know what I was like, do you want to just ten music videos? And she was like yeah, sure, and she just said yes, like and that always like really just stuck with me, that she just said yes like every time. And and so what we ended up doing was, you know, and I also need to say that she said Yes to make a video of ten music videos for an album that didn't even exist, like I the album was like not even you know, I had maybe three songs, but she just said yeah, like sure, let's do it. And so I was actually planning the visual like the album, the the videos, MMM, with Parker like before, like as I was making the album, but they were totally separate, you know. And and then what happened was I was in Europe. I finished that album in Europe and then I came back and, you know, we sat down with Parker, my wife, who helps me with a lot of the creative direction and like organization and, like, I'll just you know, a lot of coordinating other visual ideas, and we sat with Parker and the stylist that she brought it, brought in or kid and like our DP that we like to work with, and we kind of just like sat down we plotted out like every character and and and then we selected as the scene, like like the location, and we rented this motel and and then we went for literally two days and we shot ten music videos in two days and it's really like the whole story of that Vibes City Utah video experience is like there's this energy, there's this like creative energy that's just like circling around this like weird town and like this is the inspiration that's just like floating through and how it's affecting like all these different people. So if you haven't done so, you should just go through and like watch all the videos. I wanted to put the other into like more of a short film, so it's just one video rather than like ten different ones, and I'll probably do that time. But yeah, so to go to expand a little bit further on my music videos, because they are very different than compared to like other traditional music videos. But HMM, nudes is a collaborative experience. Like you know, I love...

...to collaborate with people, but I also like to encourage the people that I work with to experiment, and making visuals was a cool way for myself to connect with visual artists and encourage them to experiment. So, like Parker had never done a music video before and then with nude she did ten music videos. Or, you know, like like I did these music videos with Jelly gummies. I don't know if you know Jelly Gummies, but they're super cool. He's check those out. And I did, you know, music videos with this artist Jenna Josepher, and she did a brought on this other artist, signed twist. So I did five visuals with Jenna and sign Tis. Those are crazy and it's always just like. You know, another video that's really cool is this artist Frank Nitty. He's Hong Kong based. He just happened to be in La for like three days and like just by chance and I went to meet him for a coffee on like on a Monday and I was like hey, like you want to make a music video? We had a coffee and then the next day he's like that night he's like yeah, let's do it. So we just like book to Studio, we booked two characters, we had no idea what we were going to do and we just gotten a room and we just did it. So there's a lot of the music videos are also like, an extent, the way that we create the music videos is, it is really has been, an extension of like how I create the songs, which is just like visual, you know. And so yeah, it might not make sense a lot of times and it's like what does this have to do with anything, but it's just like it's just another way that the music like, hmm, inspired a creative experience, you know, and it's and it's like, you know, I like to when I work with visual artists, it's like hey, I want to like challenge you to experiment and try something new you've never done before, like what do you want to do? Like, okay, let's do that. You know, like Frank Nittie. I don't know if Frank Nittie had really done like music videos before, and it was like what do you want to try? And he's just like Oh, I want to try like doing some tracking with a face and like trying some stuff like my video tracking stuff with the face. It's like okay, like let's do that, and that's us fun that's what we like. So, you know, so much work into it and time and that's us. But that's an amazing thing with music, isn't it, in your industry that you're in and you connect and you meet with so many different people that are on the same path as you and your leap affect and, yeah, pushing out your comfort zone. Yeah, and go the unknown, and that's exciting. And Yeah, to trust you and what you're doing and say yes is something nuts quite powerful and that's yeah, you know, putting your faith in someone and creating something and Nice, amazing. I mean I never I never expect to that response. Response, that's it's amazing. Cool. Yeah, cool, I mean I, like I said, it's just you know what, when you live your life with your passion and you live your life with creativity, you'll be pleasantly surprised every step of the way by the things and the people that you connect with. And that's why I encourage people to go out and and go after the things that they love, because the world is going to bring you so many beautiful experiences, so many beautiful experiences just by you pursuing that and you're going to have such a rich experience of life and I highly encourage. I could completely agree. And you know, like you said, the universe ormost supports you in your your journey, doesn't it? And you've you've got to let that. Let us support you as like always know, if your music and you know, like me with this podcast, starting out, you know, just reaching out in you know, you you accepted, you know you supported me in doing this and you know, I really really means a lot from from the bottom of my heart, and so so, no, if you welcome and cool,...

...really really means a lot of thank you. Cool. Well, you know, I I wish you a incredible experience of pursuing and like, you know, exploration of knowledge and communication and with all these yeah, yeah, of course. Seeme to you as well, in touch and seeing where things lead you, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course, or we might be in the states wealthfully on see what CEO sometimes. You know. Yeah, I've whatever means a Florida and needs to come out. Have you old to like the West Coast? I? Yeah, what were you doing? Crazy place, Lauria, Disney world, and then I went to New York and my friend lost this that's come last John. Yeah, and it was a lot. Oh, cool, it's crazy. Yeah, New York in the winter time. Yeah, hardcore, man. I'm from New York, I can deal with that. Yeah, you just going into stall books and stay warm and stuffly that reason, it's a joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah, especially if you're walking around like as as a tourist visiting. Got To go there in the some time or like the spring, not the summer, but like you know, yeah, September, October, May, April, May, June, those are good times in New York. But the reason why I say you got to come to the Westerners, like, yeah, you need to experience California, you need to go to Sedona, Arizona, you need to like experience Josh, which are definitely I mean like a girlfriend and I, you know, definitely wants to go the unique small pulsover. So, yeah, let's do it. Do it, man, take a road take a road trip. You know, Definitely Flore shiftround your perspective, design your G's. My my girlfriend's traveled quite a lot and she's from left the when you're already and she's she lives. She lived and worked in New York and for quite some time doing like you a fashion. So that's kind of you know that Cho's inspired me a lot to travel. You know what, we more things, but yeah, but nice, being it's being a pleasure talking to you. That's a hood, sir. I wish you're the best of what you're doing. Yeah, man, same likewise, and being well, and don't watch, don't read too much. Yeah, of course, I thanks. You're good, and then check out. Guys. Yeah, have a great what times are there now? Would have a great even yeah, have a cool man, Nice, nice, but I have to have a great day. Now it's just afternoon. I got the whole day. Take it easy.

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