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Episode 73 · 2 years ago

The Parrsitivity Podcast #Episode 30 Ilona Schaal part 1 living through the Georgian civil war

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In today's Episode I am with Ilona Schaal, Ilona is a public speaker, nutrition health Coach, Certified public trainer, Upcoming Author. In this episode we talk about the Georgian civil war, and how Ilona lived through that historic moment in time. Instagram@inhc_cpt_ilona YouTube: Fierce Competitor https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCTrWS7UewQbKVmJehYzuPbw --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/the-parrsitivity-podcast/message

Hi, welcome to the positivity podcast. In today's episode and with elona shall she's a life coach, public speaker, personal trainer, nutrition coach and she's also in the process of writing a book. In today's episode we talk about her experience in living through the war and her childhood in Georgia, and this is to do with the US S R and the communism. We also talk about Covid Nineteen, passion, happiness, mindset and being a human being in times of crisis. So these episodes are going to be set on different topics and these are going to be released, you know, I'd say week by week. So hope you enjoy this episode. Very humbold and very grateful to have elona on the podcast. So sit back, relax and enjoy this episode. I don't know the specific childhood say it's everybody has their own childhood, and I don't know when where you're born, but during the S, you know, like we're actually like one thousand nine, hundred and eighty nine. Yeah, I don't know if you remember, but it's from the history. It wasn't one of the most historical, most evident, the most profound. You know, dad in a history. You know like a modern human kinds right now. Besides that, I think corona wire as will take the first place. It was when Reagan, you know, was standing in a brown wall and talking to the Gob Chow go whiche, used to be like a like a know, the main leader of the US star with all the fifteen countries. And he told him, I leve you remember what he tells me, that you it's like buried one phrase that was like a golden phrase. That's me right. It's like it works. He's like tear this wall, and he was sitting on the of the Berlin Wall because the barly, they know, the Germany was separated in by two in of the past, and and east at the time, and it was, I mean he's thing an, you know, democratic side. So and he said you need to tear it down to bring them, these nations together. Forget about companies. Do you know that? He's on and hers. So it's all about unity. So he kind and of bladed and he at trusted him and he okay, let me try that and see. Maybe I will be able to seat. Of having one coming its country, I will have when I combine, I will have more power to it. So what happens, that that the destruction of the furling wall led into the destruction and separation and segregation of the also so in Union country. So that was and and that led into the destruction law, devastation and also war. So the countries went to start up to kind of like create their own identity in their own voice, their own agenda, their own, you know, agnity. They wanted to become their own thing and they didn't know how to do it, how to function without being dependent on Russia, being dependent on each other, because before we used to have one exchangeing system, currency, one currency. We had pretty much the same language. This we the same education, which means all the books that you will learn in Russia, you will want, you use the same books. Enough schools in Georgia, in the Latia, in the brain and also everything was the same. So if I, if I would go from my cow come another, come Christmas, it's in USS are, I can pick it up and I don't have to worry about you know, of course they had that. The only maybe difference would be the native language. So course, every day said would be additional book, but it's it's minor. But everything was the same. So we know how to function. So on the official war that began against the Russian all the things that happened was one thousand nine hundred and ninety one. It was December twenty three. And what is December twenty fee? Christmas time, isn't it? Yeah, it's Christmas.

Yeah, while the West World was celebrating Christmas, although each side of the world was having the world so on Christmas Day. So that's when those starts and lots of quite a bit and it was completely so we see people were killed. I say people were killed the school group or bombed. You know, there's lots of devastation that happened during this time. I lost everything, like completely everything, rement and from eating cavy are two eating moldy bread. So that's how we thost, like jobs, you know, schools, you know, all of the things that, you know, made us happy, people, all of the absence of why that we wanted and needed to survive, it was all completely gone and destroyed. will taking in a way from us. It just it was like pretty much overnight today I was reached. Next morning I woke up, I had nothing and we had to survive. So we had to do to be there very I don't even know how we survived, but I don't know. I don't know if you can remember from the Bible when the king put Daniel to attest and he said to Daniel, okay, for for like four days or twenty one day, or twenty one days, they will beat my my people will be eating nothing but the good food, you know, our surious meals, like Sureius need at all these beautiful things that you can ever imagine. And and and then not said, okay, they can eat that, but we will eat, I'll eat nothing but fruit and vegetables. It's like, okay, in twenty one days, his servants, he's people of the king, were so weak, so like the skin was so sorry, because the more you're in the protein that yourself, you over, like yeah, over indulge your like over to toxicating yourself. So and the Daniel Friends became like, like so strong. The muscles, the tone, the skin was absolutely amazing. So, going back to my experience, we were removed from all of these good things, is that we could eat, you know, means everything that we used to eat before they were luxurious, right. So we started to anything that our nature would produce. So I used to find the trees just to get the almonds. Almonds. I used to go in and pushes, you know, got all the scratches just to get those very I used to do some things just to like enjoy the nature that I did take advantage of. I'm like, who wants that? Like, do I need that? I would rather go by the chocolate bar or buy the something, you know, the cool thing, rather than that. So it made me to appreciate, appreciate nature, and it was a devastation. So we like either this or nothing. So of course we would got this and that nothing. So guess was our our ways to survive and the lots of mentality. Things had shifted from that culture. But I think the main thing is that you need to have somebody to go through that, somebody who will encourage you, somebody who will pursue and that was the pusher and encourage was my mom, who said always like why do you think we need to praise God only when we have everything? We should also give him saying when we don't have nothing at all. Yeah, insane. All that happens. I suppose you kind of go into like survival, you know, you survival, and things kick in during something I mean never imagine what was like. I mean, how old was you when that happened? That was like eleven. Eleven was when I when it happened. So and then it's blasted like for for a few years, like a strong we had tanks at tanks on US twins. We it was all bombed. And also would happened that our flag during that time got changed. You know, every country got their own flag. Our flag was three colors in it. So predominant to third of the black was the was the color of the blood, right so, and it represented all the blood that has been shed during the war by by the people, by our people, and a one third on the top was black. Black Man meant tragedy, that devastation, you know, fear, loss and why. There was the one part of the why that represented nothing but hope. Yeah, so this spite of all of these struggles, devastation, you know, death that occurred during our time, we still need to remember that there is a hope, that is a light...

...bright, that something goods going to happen. We do not know when, we do not know how, we do not know who is going to put providing that. But if the hume being no, matter where they are, are going to lose the essence of hope, they're going to the essence of life and they going to keep up any time the problems going to strike them. We were not prepared. When the Work God got there, we were not with us. You know, full with the food that they don't Announ's okay, if you work, please make sure you have a food in your homes. Make sure you have the books in the House for Education, make sure you have cloned make surely a fish which you have, your finances on the bank are straight. And nobody had prepared us. So and and and usually people do not teach people how to survive and how to maintain whole. So that's the biggest thing and it usually keeps in during the time of their station, like a survivorship. To like we were like, okay, we're what's going on? was what happening? So that was something that we had to learn ass a nation. We had to learn as about ourselves, about our country, about just just pretty much any aspect of our human being life. I mean, so I when this happened. How long this happened for? So they so which country with it again? So it was like it's what all the in countries of the Soviet unions have been affected, every single one, as not every single one, but most of the country. Day had the war. So our biggest produced sir, for our energy, electricity and, of course, proping get everything gas, was depending by Russia. Lashaw was the big supply of that stuff. So since we began against that propaganda, against that, because they wanted to become their own thing and they didn't want to. They wanted us to be part of that of their country, which we said no, we want to be our own. So they the word itself would last like like big one, like for two or three years. However, the we were without electricity or supplies for at least ten years. So it was it was very, very long, like yes, five to ten years. It was very we didn't have an electricity. So we were like, by the time it was light, with only ways to get my own homework done. So when the light was all like when a natural light, when some would go down, we were done. so so everything you wanted to do, just please make sure you do it before, you know, sunset and and such. So and and also, we didn't know how to also make our food, because everything that of the gas was taken away, so I would even know how we went. The hot water was gone, so there was nothing even to boil the water for the tea. So what I know what and also by cooking, is just complete. You cannot cook even that, make an egg, because we didn't own the microwaves. But back then, because it wasn't something that we did with it have that stuff. So what we did instead of our our nature became our kitchen. Yeah, so what's it? Unfortunately, we had to cut down the trees around us serve, to use the woods to burn it, to make the fire and cook. So it was during the winter time, imagine that, that we had nothing, it was called it was. We were hungry, we had no electricity, no even even though if we had a food, we had nothing to prepare the food right. So so we would go on our like cold days outside still try to like, you know, cut the trees and did whatever we could to can. I know some of the trees were affected by the moves because the weather was their remoise. It was a time of season. This was, you know, it wasn't trying to quake and there was no sun exposure to wait for the woods to dry, but we can burn. It was. And then we used to use the carols in the heaters. So we used to buy Carol Sin and it was the just the smell of it, just the toxic smell that we had to inhale and breathe in, became such a devastation to our health and lots of people who were we were so close to Karre see here, that we...

...would smell all this negative our Roma, not even our Roman, the thing over it, all of the waste of it. So and lots of people got sick from it and most of the people got affected. But God had still protected us. So, even from this smell and all this bad influential, you know, that hazardous, you know, bacteria, know, like elements from this kerosene that was, you know, in facted our health, God still had to protect us. So and we survived even that. So, like small details like this, and sometimes, like I told you, that we had to. We were lucky. We had the bread and most of the bread were with mold, and some people you know what mold is, right? PROB yeah, not. It's all what it looks like. But more is the natural penicillin, which is the great medicine and and great man is great medicine help, but I's took sure our stomach when we would eat that. So even that was the part of, you know, God's creation. And you know, you're like, okay, I will still take care of you and I will still help you. So even in the world we got, you know shield. Yeah, that's crazy. What you know fascinating, but like dreadful kind of life time like to be. It's nothing like I could ever imagine. And like you know, the way you, you guys, coped through that. You know, it's pretty fascinating kind of it must make you give you certain kind of perspective on life, you know from that, and appreciate you know a lot of things today, because I think you know, like a lot of us, a lot of people around the world, never been funny for like that. I'll never have to experience like tragedy on a scale like that. Yes, so, when we do all the things, oh, go ahead, it was so when? So, when that was happening, like did you not go out, because how far could you go out while the words was happening from where you lived? So where? What was the location called? Where you lived as well, it was it was like we were surrounded by the military base. So military base was quite right there, like, you know, like what, like three hundred meters from from us. It's like quite by our place. So I could see the military base white by the form my windows. So, but and a lot of the tanks were going. It was such a place where it was connecting the old all of the mountains, you know, and through the to the city. So we were like, praise Gods, far away from the city enough not to get affected. However, all the tanks were coming through the through our like area, to my bed, you know, to my just to get just to get to the city, because it was the only place where not it was very hard for somebody to get through. So but since it was a military they knew very good since for the military base, and you're very you know, the road, how to get me out. Plot. We also had a black and not ble, see, we had like a local fee in there, how the water supply type of things, so that they knew how to maneuver and go around that place. Plot, not too far from my house. It was a presidential residency where we would usually like and they started to protect that area. So I'll make sure that nothing would happened to his house there as well, but it was right there. However, what happened, it doesn't matter where were the world. We still could hear everything, we could still smell it, we could still get affected by it, but I would not be able to walk by myself. Of course, if it was the school that we still had to go through it with. Always go with the groups, you know, all the neighborhood kids, but would just go together. You know, we were not discored by the doubt because we were girl. We grew up in a way that we were like self sufficient in terms of you know, it wasn't we didn't have, of course them. I don't know if you have it in your country, when the boss pick up the people for the school. Ye have that? Yeah, so we would use you know, since I was in a kindergarten, I used to go to school by myself. So walking. They're coming back now, so everybody were like taking care of the kids, you know, like you know and stuff. So, but...

I walking there by yourself was a very, very, very strange and kind of hard. However, when what happened that, you know, when you see usually military outside, you see, okay, I'm safe I'm protected right, if something would happen in anybody in the uniform indicates pretty much safety security. I can always wrong to the person. They will protect me. There were guide needs, however, in my in my case, every time you see somebody in the military uniform, it's a danger right, which whether they're like your uniform, you know, like your local you know, the people who would protect from a country or from the fort for inners in your inform, it's a dangerous because even your own people in the uniform could affect and kill you just because so they can drop you from wherever you have in your house and stuff. So we witnessed that. How many times the mill people in the military would come to the people's houses, civilians, our military from our own countries would cheek the doors, you know, with their their feet, with their like legs in the pot and open, you know, and open and bread the doors through. Some of them will be would be hard to break, but they would be just bomb so hard. They would go inside of the House. They probably would go and throw anything all your you know aboutable possession of by the balconies, and then still whatever you know, they could still, you know, from so it was it was. It was a danger. You have to like sleep with your eye open pretty much, so you never know, like you have to be like end plasm. We had a earthquakes during that time coming up. So we had we had a natural disaster and we had the men called disaster, collapsed in a synergy as together to kind of test us all. So I think it was a big test. So we we didn't know what's to do, like hide from the nature or hide from the man. However, I'm going to tell you that it's it's easier to survive from the natural disasters than from the man cause disaster, because managers as a such a power of destructions depends a surpass all of the natural destruction because men, men's brain function in such a way that has like a side of the evil, yes, and side of the security. So what it's like as a two weapons. So the side of the evil, if you plan the evil, that's going to be just absolutely massive destruction that nobody else can completely understand or stop. Nature, natural instruction, yes, it will cause it will lots, and know what consequences will be, but match is unpredictable. What men can plan, decide, Do, construct and plan is completely different. You never know what's going to happen, so you have to really be like sleep with the one eye open and be very ready for for that, and you cannot be even ready for that's that's crazy like. So it's not one of the for like a number of years. And did they just continue to kick thee with doors? was they kicking people with doors in to get like their own supplies from people, because they were sure themselves, so everybody's life. They were. Sometimes, you know, they even like soldiers. I'm sure they would. Whether they would go to stuff. I'm kind of like psychological problems and they were stationed themselves to now from the training or on like a dumb if they had to actually go and kill a real people. So they would also for some kind of issue that we didn't even know. But their goal was to protect civilians. That the Premier League goal. So they would go to the kid homes and they would do I don't know if they were under influence or something, maybe psychological disorder. Something happened in know during that time post part them with something that had caused that. We do not know. However, they would they would throw away the possessions of the people would say the DVD players, you know, bigger than we had ut players the beach. Actually vahs players not bed within them and help creates players in all there like some kind of like any system. But we had some people had the gaming seasons would like a new to them, to our culture back then. So they would throw away TV, she said, on the ground, but they would still some food, whatever they had in the recreat rip and maybe, like if they had some jewelry, maybe there was still the jewelry and such so, but but it was the very devastating because one of my friends who had survived, she was witnessing the death of her of her parent. When the soldiers would take them...

...to rescue them from their country, you know, from their side, to to bring them to to Georgia and, you know, to my side, and they would put everything, go person on the boat like, you know, you just flall open board, you know, not nothing big to get them across, you know, like Black See, you know, just by the bleaxe, by the shower, and they will be my place. And what they do there was they would load the boat with the people. And what happened there would shoot the people in a boat and let the boat go, so they will be less people. Yes, and she was. She was the she was the one who had to wait to who had to wait for the second one, and she was behind the book push looking and everything that had happened. So she and her sister, they ran away from it and know they're safe right now. You know, they're always down. They got married, they have kids right now, of course, but it all had happened in front of their eyes. How our soldiers would kill our own people so they don't have that the country would not have to take care of them because we couldn't. So it was it wasn't so like like you would think that your soldiers would protect you, but we received so the people in uniform. It was the of the like this alarm, like like here, like round, you know, danger. So versus here you see police person, they're like you can always run to him, and they hate Pois. I'm in the trouble, you know, if these guys, you know, body each right over there. Now you could on to that. So and it was very yeah, our country had not supplies, no food. The only all the stores were closed and the only thing that was open and functioning with the electricity, barely barely. It was our factory for entire countrybute with produce and baked the bread, and it was every other day that that that facture would work and function properly, because all the electricity, all these things would try to like, you know, just for the factor to function and produce what we need. Then, said they or essence of our survivors, which was the bread. And I remember standing on the line to get the bread from two am until six or seven am to send online just to make sure I get the bread. Yeah, and we would keep it out, like, I'm just going to use my speaking not of their right colors actually, yeah, with them. Know, so we had they would give us to cars this card, and this is the my another sticking out the cards. So they're exactly same colors. So they would give it to one family this color, like and it would be for the odd days and and and orange color was for the even days. So whoever had the like orange color with gold to get the bread on even days and and opposite one for the other days, you know. So there were couplet how many people you had in your family, and there were they would let you know how much bread you can have. So out of the round bread. My family were allowed to have one quarter of IT, one quarter run of every other day. Yes, so I'm not kidding you. It was it was devastation and for me to get that boat. We were so hungry and and desperate so much that we would we would do anything to to get that book. So I had to wake up with my sister and my friend like two am to get in line because it was a lack of lifeline. So, if you don't get the food, don't get the if the bread want out, you know you're out of block. Yeah, you have to. You have to wait for another two days till you get your bread. So, and that's why people would do just anything to to get to get this bread. I remember just the smell of the bread. It was still fresh. It was it was good, but it wasn't enough. By the time I went home, I think I would eat I was so tempting not to eat it. It was so good and I was like, Oh, we get home, so like, I will just give this bread to you know who, you know, all of us will all be able to share it. But it wasn't. Now, of course it was enough, but it is what it is. Of course, my parents has to, you know, give up their portions to make sure that we have. We had it. So it's crazy. How so like what would you eat the bread? We lie, oil like meets what know, only only thing we could do that it was I remembered the putting the butter on top of the bread. That was delicious.

And if we had a honey, we would put the honey. I love the honey bread and botter. This most amazing combination of the freshness and goodness of the bread and also the soft, softness of the bottle that has also their richness and and oils in them. That you know, that the fact that you meat, but your brains of functions, and also the natural remedies, and this, you know, the good, good, natural things from the honey that you know nature has produced and put into it is life essence, antibacterial remedies. You know, honey also helps to preserve you with lots of things and detached yourself to her, and we didn't know about that that then. But this combination of Stru goodness carves enough that and you know, there was no protein, but still it was we got we sustained. It wasn't enough. I wish you would have more than that, but it's yeah, that's what you could do without boiling anything, cooking anything or, you know, making anything. So it was but we didn't always help them. Always had honey, though. Yeah, Nice, I mean not honey, and those ingredients, you know, pretty much key on. They for like your health, and it's good that you had those, you know, to go to the bread and like what you were saying about, you know, the military, like you, like you said, like it's kind of instinctive to be able to trust those kind of people. Naturally just go to them if you need help. So I mean to like and not be able to do that, you know, and to witness your own people killing your own people must have been, you know, how how would someone cope for that, you know, and how do you do? You logically, in your mind, think I can't trust those people. You know, it's like telling yourself a conscist the police, the police, that's protect. Yes, that's that's that took us a while to trust such. We moved our trust very strongly from from the people to to God at this moment, because I think that when the revival started to happen, when our church has started to kind of like raise up and a lot of people. They were trying to bring the hope to us through the something that men or humans cannot produce. And we started to do take our hope from the humans into the something that is love, everlasting. So when before, we were not allowed to go to churches because it was the communities of religion and we were very, you know, like careful about who would go to those churches. It was are not allowed. Right now it was some kind of reliable that, you know, okay, now we can go to the churches, now, we can actually pray, now we can actually see some kind of like higher power out there that will help us to sustain and cope with with that. So we were actually taking our our focus from humans that are mortal to something that is immortal, with eternal who's, you know, who's the essence of the life giver to us. So that was something that was that was happening and and that would that when the people hope God, you know, flourished and let us survivorship and help us to strive in the midst of the devastation and law that we have a we have experience during the unprecedented time that we had, know, that has occurred. So thing that we didn't jeopotize our education. I think I still have to go to school. Not. Yeah, the schools were cold, we didn't have a windows. When have a hitter, we have our tri city, we have a talk to use. Even so, I didn't even have the desks. You know, the for ours where uneven. The doors were not locked. We didn't have a bathrooms at the schools. So, yeah, there were no bathroom at the schools. I know. So it was I don't even know would have. So we had to guard each other, you know, somehow, so the boys will not go to the girls place, or just somehow, like we had their teachers, would like maybe spend there in one place and just just kind of like monitoring to school, go where. Yeah, it was just like very like yest, like it was very, very hard. So how did you likee like it? Sorry, yeah, we really had like place to walk, like wash our hands. There was no water, running water at all in a schools. So now let to say no water, no bathrooms. Are Bathrooms...

...were bound destroyed and there was like no doors, no nothing. It's just yeah, so, like would you able to go focus on the education? How did you manage them. I was while stool that was going around you. It was very hard because, like first I was very determined, I was very could stridden, one of the best at the school. So for me it was just the way to say thank you to my parents by being a good student and by getting the good grade, because I didn't work. So it put much payback to my parents saying that, you know, thank you for what you've done or doing in my life, and that's the first thing that I can say thank you to you, by being a good student and being a very focused on education, because they wanted me to. Of course, you know, like when you you know like you do something good, that you come home. Oh my God, Al You wanted to think that. That what you put in. You know, you see the results. We felt I was very result or into. I'm still am. So for me at that moment, I kind of saw a little bit of loss of interest, like what's going to happen? What's not going to happen? It is worthy for me to continue with that also, who that focus? So my priorities have changed, but, however, I still wanted to finish strong my school. I still wanted to finish the right I still want, wanted to finish a properly. So it took me a while to get that. But my teachers are the ones who pushed me, encourage me and belief in me. So I got the scholarship because the schools began and began to be a cost. Believe, you had to pay to go to school. Wow, and there's a lot of yet, because there was no, no, no way that government could pay the teachers to teachers periods. So we pretty much had to pay, you know, the students had to pay the teachers to come in and teach and such. So that at which was very hard. So I went to the test. I finished a test that passed the task. So this so I don't have to. I didn't have to pay to school. There were only six spots for entire school for anybody who will pass the task and exam did not have to pay for it. And I sweat, Bullard. I'm like, I don't know how I'm going to do it on an empty stomach, on like just I'm just so dispired from life. But but, my peaches, that you want to you know, you run of the beast, you know. I know you cannot afford it, but please do it. So and and I started until the sun went down. I was starting all the time, until the last of the being, of the of this was out there. I was just doing my homework, making sure that I passed the task. So and I did. So I didn't have to pay a single thing. So I think it's my school, without bribes, without any of this extra attention or anything anything that. Yes, I did on my own. So, which was hard, but it happened. Wow, it's pretty pretty motivational, motivating and inspiring, you know, like you know here hearing what you went through and living through and all of that going on around you and you know, for you to still have that focus on your studies and that's throwing yourself, you know, rather than because a lot of people, I guess, throughout that time, you would worry or lose hope and, you know, get caught open what's going on around them. But you kind of like, through all that happening, kind of like stay focused. Yes, that's the focusing part. Was the toughest part, because our priorities has shifted. It so we didn't know what our main priority was. To survive and see another day as a nation. We didn't care my parents probably with care less if I would be like, you know, like a students. I don't know, you have upgrading or you have a number grading. So absolutely is a pretty much like. So they would not care if I failed the school or if I passed the school. Their own goal was to make me, you know, to see another day so the kids will not die. You know, that their main focus, just like everybody else. They care less about education pretty much. Or ever, we still wanted to kind of push that through and kind of keep us away from thinking hard about you know, so we do not follow them victims over diversity. We wanted to think education, so we'll not think a war. We wanted to study, so we will not do drugs or we would not do prostitution. We would not do anything like, you know,...

...getting the guns that killing people. So there would rather give us this book to our hands. Yeah, instead, you know, guns to our hands. You know, that the things. So they would rather us think education and rather than think how hungry we were. How that what is going on around us. So when we would come together to school, most of the times we would not, for example, a talk about school or subject, or we would talk about life. How are you how do we survived? So that helped us to cook together and and survived together, you know, in this kind of way, so that I like. Would you say, you know, almost the built like, you know, so much resilience in use a person through going through that, you know, giving you up, you know, different perspective on you know, and things. Even now, would you say, Oh, yeah, the last completely has changed. However, what I try to teach with my speaking and mutilation and through my book is some some kind of essence, because we can easy really japartize and compromise our values, our standards as a humans, when we go to the devastation and lots such as war, let's say, such is something like you have food, you have put the yesterday and today you don't have a food. Sometimes we can jeopardize our values as well, and we have to be very careful about not to use our identity throughout this process. And how do we still remain a humans with the good intention, with the good values, with a positive attitudes, you know, and the proper standards of believing is the essence of the life, with that, you know, and still a humans becld like, okay, she remained a human versus you know, we turned out to be animals, you know, going to the People's home and destroying that. So that all about itself. It's a big test. Life is all about test. It's about how you're going to survive and how you're going to treat others. Yeah, yeah, no, not completely agree. Like you know, love Doos lock those tests you and it does. For like you know, carefuls I's like you know, how you manage in reactive nothing to the things happening around you and know, not adding to it nective ways, like negative things are happening. It was hard because no books shows you how to do it. You cannot read anywhere back that. You know, we have even TV to listen to the positive news. Of course, we didn't have a smartphone to go to the youtube with the expect that time there was no youtube, there was no google, nowne of that had existed, and computers. We didn't even have a computer. Second then time. So we didn't even use the computers at all. But and so we didn't have any positive any messages counting. But we had to come up with their own and use our human instincts, because every human has this good and bad nature. Struggling inside of it and it's like a dog's when you know, like there's two dogs are fighting, you know, and somebody said, so, which dog do you think is going to win? And then they're like the one that I'm going to feed the most. Right. So, and we have a too human nature, so to both nature we're feeding most is going to devour and eat the than the least of because nature. So if you feed yourself with the negative thought, that the negative people, negative surroundings, and you're gonna Support Your Evil Nature and the evil nature is going to destroy your good human nature. So we have to be very careful the people we are associating with, the things that we read, the things that we watch, the things that we taught, you know, the places that we go, are anyuation that we have deserved. We have to be very, very careful. You know, it's gonna fit. Evil Nature is going to bid, you know, good, positive nature of the humankind. So that's the thing that I've learned. So we have to be it's a fine line, you know, and it's easy to fall and the scene is very attractive, very very attractive, very colorful, very fun very lackable. So we just have to be very careful. You know not to, you know, just just as know the truth and know the consequences of it. Yeah, I was really you know und percent what you're saying and true, and like that's...

...something that you know was, you know, awareness almost now, isn't it? You know, with what's happening in the world, you know a lot of things people that people rely on for probably feeling a certain way or pleasure. You know, they can't really go to now. So you know what people wants for, you know, you know Broughdom, happiness. They can't get that because they can't go to people being forced to look out how they're thinking. And you you gain happiness through yourself, don't you? You know you can't seek it by doing certain things. You know. Don't you get temporary happiness, I think, through doing certain things, but real happiness and that slower, you said to people and what you choose to feed the most is what you kind of attract, isn't it correct? Yes, that's that's like two for I think anything for our mind. Sometimes we need to have this time to detox. Maybe there's a good time that we go through its nation as the world, to detax our thoughts, maybe to to re think our lives, to to prioritize our values and standards of the life. So what's most important than then, the things comes to it, you know, we'll all survive as a nation. We will it shallow pass, but you know, it's like a big test for all of us. Are we going to jeopardize our human nature? And you can, you can see your true characters, right. So who are you? It is not about you know that they's going to change you, but it's going to reveal your true character, who you are, and it struggles any any problems that we have. This between counter is actually do our true characters. So it doesn't change this, but it's reveals, as you know, who are we really made up? You know what is our values, and I think that's and you can see the people around you. If people are negative, there will that their nature's being revealed. If the people have a good detention, like still strong, still positive, their nature is going to be revealed. So that it not about the true colors. It's about, you know, people who finding out about themselves. To It's it's yeah, it's a big change of people. Will just have to be very careful during the times. Yeah, the positive, yeah, that's full here. And you know, we've got to be very, very mindful of like you know what you feed like, you know your mind and your attention and your focus and who surround yourself with, how you choose to think and be usn't it like? Because it's it's a lot easier to be negative and think all, you know, sctomizing yourself with all the things. Yeah, yeah, it's very when we are when things go as well, for us to become like lazy and get back into our things and rely on the things that made us have to be for like, you know, with external things, that what made us happy, like TV, maybe, I don't know, going, maybe people would go in the public made it happens, the people go to the bars, or make them happy sets. It's all external. So, but they were searching for something that they could not find. Maybe now it's a time for them to get something internal, like peas, maybe some kind of value, something stuff at the identities of esteems during this time and can a work on that nurtured and the six stem up and and coroll that and develop it through some kind of maybe the pain and boss can also produce some positive things in your life. You know, I could have used that as and victimize myself, for me, for me, let me just go and do drugs or, you know, because I need the money. I mean, I guess I will sort telling the drugs. You know, I could have use any of those negative things to produce negative results. However, we all use them, not at all, but we use that there were stations that the pain and suffering, right struggle, hunger to grow us as a nation and to use that as a tool to teach and pass it throughout the generation and let them know, hey, not everything is that bad. If we survive, we survive so many things, physical and emotional and spiritual pain too. If we think that you can do that to indpendentic time, in this time of dumb isolation, right now, everything is gone, not everything is laws. You can still serve and not only survive but also strive about all your things, and maybe the defer station and is locked down and this isolation will preduce some good, good to result and they're very positive fruit. So and I believe that's what's going to happen. Yeah, now, that's exactly and I think, like...

...for what you said is completely right. And you know, if you're you know what you experience, you know for your childhood and grown up, and you know your country. You know the things they went through. They didn't have. You know, like you know, I said there's like one factory that was making bread. You know it probably you know, like I said, technology, Internet, you know, wasn't really around significant significantly. is now so tricity and you know, people now very crazy if the WI fi goes off to get bored and they don't know what to do. And well, yeah, it's going to be real. It's all external pieces, all external like you know, like like happiness is what happens, only only relies on external things that we get. So, but the joy that we have is internal, internal that stays there no matter what the external circumstances are. So we have to differentiate that and make a big difference and cause the line between the two. You know, what makes us happy? Let's say, Wi fi makes us happy. To you makes us happy, you know, we know social, you know, like going to social clubs makes up happy, for it's not all going to work makes us happy. But but it's all. When you take those things away, you will not be happy. So you have to be very careful how we define the happiness. You know, having somebody by your side maybe makes it happy, but what is everything else come from? From all the help you will done right, but that's what we have to be very careful to nurture things that stay there despite of the external things going to be taking away from you. Yeah, I completely agree thing, but you said we kind of cool, be cool, not Lupo, working to buy things that we forgave it happiness or doing things that we fog gave us. Happens, and you know, I think people can only kind of grow from this game more perspective and watch it does make them happy. Because, yes, you amount of all these things be might you know, with what's happening, you can't really necessarily use that money to get you mean, that's when students in my form made you happen. Restaurants are close, public closed, instead of thinking, instead, you know, searching something. There's a void maybe in us that we're trying to kind of close the gap right because now we don't know what to do. We have disconnect, disconnect from the world in some point, disconnect from reality in some point, because right now nobody knows reality. The media is not transferring everything that we need to know in a way that will come us down. You know, there's so many negative media and we know that it's a bad thing. Is going on with virus right now forever. No media is telling us that everything is going to be okay. Sit Back and relax, you know, like just how about smile at somebody even called somebody. Let them know that I'm there for you to eat them now, not that. None of the media tells us how we can call and some kind of politic sparkle hope. You know, there's n there always they're like, you know, the this is they have extreme media role. This like a scandals and sensations and drama. There's the biggest things to wrap around, because that's what we want, that's what people create. Nobody won't want to hear about, for example, like a peaceful talk on a podcast, on a TV that's about like, oh my Gosh, looking does you call about your life? How you know? You grew up, you were such a good girl, everything was fun, you had to such a good grade, such a good school, you went to the university. You did they do? Become a medical doctor, you had kids. Nobody wants to know that. They want to know what happened. You know what struggle through Sni for, you know all this devastation. You know. They want to know this kind of thing. So they will be crappy tating, and that's what draws lots of them, people to watch the media, even though there's no news anymore than uses the same, just the kind of like repeat themselves, to repeat themselves until they tap into our oh my gosh, that you're gonna die. You're good to tell how you got to retext girl a virus recipe and and like this. Right, pretty much. So you're your next, you next of we real accounting. Okay, he got it, you got it, you got close. Oh my God, I think so. So we just have to be you really care, because there's a bigger forces out there that can sustain us and protect us more than all of this kind of thing. So we just have to be really just mindful and and our brain is a such a powerful tool that nobody can even understand it fast and run, faster and and more stronger than...

...any computers combined together. I think it would be like what like some kind of trillium sneakobytes out there that Tom quins are functioning it's such a strong and powerful tool. So in we use it properly, which none of the media and schools are helping us to really apprehend that power, then we will be a very positive people and influential if we use our brain positively, of course, to build instead of destroy. So and that's why we have to use our brain eble more, you know, doing this time to help us cope, to help us survive, to help us be stronger and to influence our own health, spiritual, emotional and physical. Because if you tell yourself, I'm going to die with the winners up next one, I guarantee you going to be next on and you probably going to die. Yeah, you tell yourself that, oh it's everything is going to be okay. I don't want you to write to yourself. However, your brain, like in your words, attract to your heart. And you know we have our words help the magnetic and power to it, and an electric and magnetic power that attracts our starts. You know, they trust to our heart. So it's going to make think game there. So everything we say, it's going to be somehow affected and and impactful into our lives. One where are another. So we help to get very focused and very intentional to stay things that will help us. Yeah, no, I actually agree where you said, and I think, like you know, the human brain contains like eighty billion, over eighty billion there owns. And yes, what you choose to fee, you know, feeder, you know tracts and your words. Next to force connects to your words and your emotions. They will become fas when you Adam all together, and it's almost like the cement to a brick, isn't it? It's almost that coating to something like we're happening what you said around us in the media. You know, what you choose to focus on, your attracts. You know that's positive, negative. And if you continually look at the media and you looking at the negative things, it will just make you more anxious, which is then going to just we you know, wreck your immune system and then you're more susceptible getting a cold, you're more sceptable to having other conditions. You know, through cause on and stress, and it's just, you know, the mental state, you know affects your emotional states. Then, yeah, ok, yeah, it's a how we were created. So like we have few prepared or to be very careful what we seek the most, right, and we have to be very you know. Yeah, it's you know, we're quite, like you said, we're quite fascinating creatures and we're not coming given a manual on how to be a person. Yeah, and, like you said, the media is going to post things that are positive over things that negative, because that's kind of what sells and that's what gets people attention, unfortunately. Yeah, but there are positive things out there happening. You know there are. You've got to you've got to seek that, and you thought you got to find that, because there is a lot of positives out there happening. So, like, sorry, honestly, like from from like what happened with you in George, Georgia, right, Georgia, with the war. So, like, how did that feel when that will kind of blow got blown over and finished point. What was that like? So the other outcome? Yeah, like how did I feel? Like the outs relief, like, you know, when that happens, it was very UN expected. We didn't know how to cope with you know, how to function. We didn't know what. So the president, who has been selected during this world time to lead us, because it was the time was pressing. We needed to do something, he was killed during that war. So, yes, can you imagine? That's why the country became very chaotic. There was no no leader, there was no person who would guide and tell them what to do, how to protect people out to not to you know, what not to do, and that's how people did not know who to to Goo. So everybody could do whatever they wanted to do, if they wanted. If the soldiers wanted to come to our place and just just...

...demolge that, guess what, nothing is going to happen to them, because there's nothing out there on top of them with guide them and give them restrictions, what not to do and what's to do. You know. So, and and so we learn to cope without a leader like president as a contribute. Learn to cope how to have no guards, no security around us. We learn how to cope. I'm nothing on counting in a fact like a diver state and the hunger, you know, and all the laws and stuff like this. So we have to learn, like where the hope is coming from, that big thing that everybody were looking for. What's next? What's next? Sometimes I would go to bed, I would back. God, please make this night longer and the day shorter, because during daytime that's when we felt hunger. Right we were thinking about how to to wipe about next day, talk to read, you know, like plan, you know where the food is going to come back. So I would like God, please, please, please, let me enjoy my sleep. I want to sleep. I don't want to wake up that please. And and I didn't want to wake up any morning anyways, because it was so cold. I did that. I was just like this. I did I couldn't get my hands. But because it was cold, man, it was cold in a house, as we had no here. Imagine, you know, leaving in your homes on as in December time, or like, you know, the cold, the seasons in your in your area, and we don't get lots of snow, but you still have a pizzy, still called less bags. Take it as a part that you have which I visited London. It was beautiful thing the Christmas time. It was amazing season. I loved it and interful way. It's just like how I like and but in during the coldest day of this reason, there was no heated size. So you wake up, you like, oh my gosh, we'll do do like today, when I woke up it was just sixty eight degrees and I'm like, oh my gosh, it's cold. Yeah, and you know, but the human nature has, you know, has the feel comfortable, right. You know, out temperature is looking a special kind of degrees that surround us and we need that to feel, you know, just productive, and we have that. I couldn't wake up. I'm like, Oh my God, I don't want to go to school. Can Ne Sleep for one where. I would like this. You know, I would go to bed with my claws on. Yes, you know, like, you know, take it off and put pre down US wherever, but we would put more close on a US when we would go to sleep. It was just just times like Ah, we didn't have enough blankets to pour on top of us. It's my mom would make us clean the houses so we would get the warm. She was very street and showed you have to clean, but she did so we can move, because more you move you warm up. Myself. Yes, in generates the heat, generates the energy, and know the energy needs to be but more energy we use, guess what, the more energy we have to consume, because food is a form of the energy that we didn't know. So we had to be very careful. You know, if remove a lot, which means we're going to give out our energy, you know, more you sleep. It's like, you know, you kind of energies in a piece, you know, like body in motion, you know, Stacey emotion, body in West Space and gay. So we have to be very so it's like you wanted to be warm up and you want to be warm by the same time. When you do that, your way to energy. Know, when you do like a look like running right, you like couple. I'm hungry now, you know, you always like you eating an open refriger or right, and in my case I could not even open the refriger it was empty. So, like I opened a cupboard, there was nothing. So it's it was just like like a govern or effact. You know, you want to get warm at the same time you get more hungry and leally like, Oh, just one thing is so you have to prioritize through you. It was it was just the game that we all learned some kind of structural things that we have to kind of. Yeah, that time were don't care about our health, like being natural, the eating right, the carps, are you kidding me? We did have a word Diet. Until I got to America. I'm like, what does this work means that? What is it that that means to you have to select what you want. So you eat what God gives you to eat. I came back from us again, you have to select. We didn't select what we eat, what we had. That for our root. And then people, because we consume so much. We it's a concert, you know, it's so like a game. We know, lots of Manupulation. You know, it's a game, game out there with the politics, with the businesses, with money. Right, we...

...all want to like give keep people so much that now we go to the stores, we don't even know what cereal to body because like five bits serials out there. Just give you one, I'll be happy with that. Put the right ingredients of right, you know, a natural stuff. You know, do your best to give me one good things I don't have to worry about. So and and that's what I'm like, you know, just eat to go through. Now I can, you know, like a certified nutrition is and also personal trainer, so be able to kind of guide and things. So I because things in challenge to teach people to self love, because if you don't telp, Love Yourself. If you don't respect yourself, I can give you all the tools, I can make your body look amazing, but if you don't, if something doesn't change in sound us, inside of you, this external will be sick, just like all this actressies out there. They're all these people who are doing plastic searchers and wanted to external wall to look so good at the all there's. It's now going to last. They are not happy. They're searching for something to validate their values from external change and it's not going to and they're going to be doing so many they're going to run out of the plastic searchers very soon, because inside of it most of the people are empty. They are they don't they don't know who they are and they're identity being in shake, so instin yet big stick, so they have. That's why lots of people out there are so or even though they are reached. They are very what nice percent agree with what you said, and I think like as well. People seek things externally when they've got them internally, when you got it internally, if that makes sense. And you know, like I said, with people buying things and you know, people trying to look a certain way. You know, you got it all inside you and as well with trying what that we as well in society. The so much out there, like you said, the cereal and the food. There's about fifty different types of cereal. Now what you said, in situation you is in like you, you kind of you had to get whatever was there, you know. You, yeah, it wasn't like the tent top to cereal use eight. You just had what you had to survive and that stuff. And that's when the crazy things with the world a little bit. There's too much. There's too much choice. You know that, not just in cereal and food and drink. It's at and that's kind of comes into the other education side. There's so many things that you can do in your life and be and when people are forced to think, you know what you want to be, a million things. Yeah, I'm being how can someone figure it out like that? YEA, so it's and I do not believe in diets. I do not believe in Dietitian because it's come politely scross people. They have no idea what they're doing. Speaking with I have a formula that works too for anybody that, for example, is struggling with that. That is very powerful and very effective, very effective. So and I think I'm I consider myself as a very powerful of person to to eat anybody in this journey, because I don't even talk to talk, I walk the walk and I went through this so many things in my life that it's not you know, with experience, but also with the essence what's most important out there, that I can give more than anybody else out there can. It's really it's really nice and you know it's really good what you're doing and what you accomplishing. You know what you've gone through and to come through that, you know, and use your experience in a positive way and wants to help other people, you know, and be the best version of yourself and help of people be the best version of themselves. Yep, that's that's that's the biggest things that I want them to see themselves the way that, you know, their creators see them. You know how beautiful, how amazing, how valuable they are. How you know just life is good and life is worth living and not cursing and not, you know, just pictimizing yourself like, oh my gosh. So, yeah, life will go on, whether you're like struggling today or nothing. It will go on. There will be still tomorrow, whether with you without you, but you just have to fight enough. You want it so you can be seeing more of you. Know,...

...yeah, I could agree more. You gain. You know your game, aliens, don't you, and you gain momentum and through what you go through, you get to help other people. You know, it might not be nice now, but you know, go through it and help people. You able to relate to people who might be going through something similar to what you do as well. Yes, yeah, that's that says the goal, you know, because sometimes you can see when people are trying to tell you and or sell their product, let's say, or sell themselves, and they have nothing valuable because us, they have no idea what they're going through and what they what they're talking about. They and not really, because they never went through the hunger, they never went through the devastation. They level went from the self rebuilding. You know this moment. They never went from the losses to the victories, from the devastation to the gain, from the admiration to the DEFA, you know everything. They never had this journey. So how can somebody else can tell me how to read my life and be affective if, if you're not the one who be to that and not and everybody, and I also want to mention that everybody's journey is their unique journey. Just because what I went through and my technique worked on me doesn't mean those techniques going to work on you. What what people that are talking? People don't know that. They're always going on like a cup cook in a cooking cutters. You know, they use one, one measurement for everybody. Okay, boom, boom, and their prescription, let's say, is the same for everybody. That doesn't work this way, absolutely not worked for me, may completely ruin your life. What worked for you may complete little like just completely ruined my health and everything. So, and that's where I come and very, very careful without with that, and I understand and every person easy unique. There will be nobody like you, nobody like me, nobody like anybody else in the world. So it's into beach show. It's all about uniqueness and individualism and not compromising those spells too. Yeah, no, that's that's exactly clear. And it's like, you know, it's excepting everyone as a different puzzle pieces in some way, not everyone's going to fit into that. We need to be montflow and understand. And I remember I heard Tony Robins say he wrote one of his books and this guy bought that and he heard and he sat he tried suing them and he was like, you booke, didn't work. You know. You know. Or How'd your book in? This is happening in my life and any how to go in? And he was like well, you know, like did you follow the things in my book? You know, and not everything's going to work for everyone else. Yes, yes, so it's it's just, you know, like perspective. It's all about like wisdom. I think we can get smart, but the wisdom comes from completely different sources and we just have to like differentiate. We know between these two in are we going to be smart with the people that will work with or we're going to be wise with people that where we're coming counter with. So we have to be very careful to that. Not just careful, but just kind of know and connect. Yeah, sometimes people come to me and I can tell you know, you just not going to do it. So it's just going to be bludge right for you. This is not the right journey for you. For example. We need to work on that first, because before we can work on this. So when you work on that, you know I can talk people with this, but I can also help with with other things as well. But yes, people sometimes run to the places and to people to get some kind of help and answers, even though sometimes they have to come up with their own answers. I cannot tell you about your new life. You have to run. What's most important. They want me to tell them how to leave their lives. No, that doesn't work this way. Yeah, I can guide them and they kind of like Roll A. Yet, oh my gosh, John, yeah, you can. You can really got your you guide them. You can't tell them what to do. Become use up to them what they do. You can like to be, to be kind of like not everybody likes to,...

...you know, to know what they did wrong. And add my job to tell them what it is wrong. I'm not there to judge and they could judge and they were safe. It is something bad or we're know as it's about guiding them and just yeah, yeah, but beating them, ultimating them and and just give them this flame and kind the kindle their life, of their Pasha for leaving and maybe their goals. They dreams, you know, because everybody has a dreams, but not everybody know how to dream and how to protect their dreams and just leave them. It's really true. It's really nice you help people to that sort of funding your passing and so that's yeah, thank you. Thank you for being the podcast today. Talking of look forward to Ye, absolutely, yeah,.

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