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The Parrsitivity Podcast

Episode 28 · 1 year ago

The Parrsitivity Podcast #Episode 74 Julio Muhorro

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In today's episode I'm joined by Julio Muhorro, Julio is a transformational coach, Business advisor, career counselor, facilitator, public speaker and thought leader! Was recognised in the top 100 influential African's, became a holder of the prestigious Diana award, won the most outstanding delegate award at global goals model United Nations. Contact: https://www.coffeechat.co/mentor/in/JúlioMuhorro linkedin:https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliomuhorro --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/the-parrsitivity-podcast/message

What's up? That happen? Hey, how you doing, F J, I'm great. How are you? Yeah, good man. Good now, thank you for doing this and come on podcast. We appreciates it, of course. Of course I like people to be on my podcast, so I'll be on anyone else's talk. Yeah, not so. How it works, isn't it so? Like how how'd you get into like what you do? I see that you do like you know, my music, music, alrighty thing. Is it music? AUTS IT? I manage my music artist. Yeah, this is actually a story I love to tell. Yeah, of course it was. It was just me and my friend sitting at a table for years ago and he said I'm going to be a rapper. I was like, okay, all right, I'll be your manager. That's really that's really how simple it was. And then, I mean, he was just on the sound cloud for the first year. Got We got excited over five hundred plays when we got it and it's really not that big. And then a year after that I started my own label. HMM, it was another one of those things. We were just sitting there and we're thinking, why don't I have a table? I would be cool, like I'm always wanted to have my own business and like have that power, and so I just decided to do it. We decided on the name and like another five minute one dollar records, and from then on I gathered a group and did pretty well, and now I'm kind of scaling back on that. I'm really trying to focus on managing, because the original artist, I'm only with him now. HMM. We're trying to focus on getting a deal and moving a lot higher. So he has all my energy now and one hundred percent manager. Not as awesome. I mean, how old are you? Yeah, I'm sixteen. Sixteen. Yeah, I mean it's a big thing to do as well, I mean especially, you know, fair play, I mean, hot's off to you for doing that, sixteen. I mean, thank you. Like I'm twenty six and I don't want to think of the thing up, if you was to think of seconds down up a record label, Belo Geez. Yeah, I know, I can't wait until I'm like thirty and I can say I have seventeen years of experience. And then see them do the math in their head. What, yeah, they talking of all, yeah, no, exacting. Yeah, and the thing is, like age, just remember, isn't and if you want to follow something, you want to do something, then yes, you should have let that hold you back. Yeah, well, that's almost one hundred percent the case, except for the fact of being able to drive and being able to legally sign contract. Yeah, does it. Those are the really only two things that can limit me. I can get around them, right, I can get an adult to sign the contract on behalf of my company. Is set it up so it's all people. But yeah, it's really it's really not that bad. But the other thing, the other problem, challenge is being taken seriously, you know, on the sophomore in high school, even though I've been doing this for three and a half, four years. Yeah, it's if I'm trying to represent my artist. Yeah, and I'm talking to say, a label rap and they see I'm sixteen, that's really like a hit my reputation. So that's that's hard because I don't want to lie. I'm not going to say Oh, yeah, I'm nineteen. That's never good, but it's also not the best thing to be sixteen and half to tell them that. Yeah, I mean the thing is my age is when it's the thing of ages on it, like a lot of people get judged by that age and I experience. And the thing all lot you're certain age. You've got experience in this like well, there's a quote and it's like something like it's not the years in your life, but the life in your years. Yeah, you can, it's two thousand and twenty one and have more life experience and be a deeper person than someone who's yeah, I totally agree, and I think judging by age is bad, but I really don't think there's anything wrong with judge it by experience. That's something a lot of people confuse. Like if you judge me by my age, that would not be good, for meteen is not an age synonymous with having tons of experience. But if you...

...judge me by having three and a half, four years of experience, then you would actually see the pictures that. Yeah, I have a problem with agesm but not experience it. Yeah, not exactly. Yeah, and I think, like you know, it's great that you're following your passion and you're doing something that is all of interest to you, and that's what it's all about, isn't it? Because you know you're doing something you love and you enjoy. You're working with someone who's passionate about music. Yeah, that's that's the biggest thing, because I love this. I love what I do. At Sixteen, I have absolutely no reason to be working the amount I do. Really, I didn't want to. I could quit right now, but the thing is I just love it so much. People do not understand that. Are Not. How can you do something for twelve hours a day and, yeah, be happy? I love it. That's that's it. Like, I really, really love doing yeah, and everything. Some of it is tedious and boring, but most of it is amazing. What kind of music does this Guy Do? Like? What kind of music are you into? Hip Hop. So that's that's my specialty. Nice. In terms of music I'm into, I like all music, and anybody in the music industry should like all music because they should know a lot about it. But I specialize in hip hop. I listen to it a lot and I've never really straight from hip hop. I do provide services and help other people outside of hip hop, but I would never manage an artist or try to sign an artist that wasn't hip hop or rb. Yeah, like and I suppose like we've got John as well. Asn't the kind of would you would you like sign this person? To you looking just to folcus on one genre music, like the artists, or you mean like subgenres of hip hop? I mean, I are you looking to me in the future, like the different dramas of music? In that future I hope to have a gigantic entertainment company that rifles, WMG, sodio music, universal music. So I will not confine myself to any genre. But I I am considering. There's like a subgenres hip hop that I'm working in right now, know and that I really like. So I'm considering keeping that from an energe time management company for a while. But the end goals in twenty plus years, no genre will define my ventures. MMM and goals. Yeah, no, that's it isn't it's in. It opens a few opportunities to then go and do you like, say, not selecting just one order. You can then be open. Yeah, like, who do you have? Like any? Like mentors? Are like role models that you like the couples? I wish I had mentors. I've been looking for mentors. They are are to find, but definitely a ton of role models. I forget the guys in the guy that started deaf jam. Yes, it's yeah, I know, I know who you mean or his name and Scooter Braun. I've seen a lot of donumentaries. The interviews with him super cool and I like how he works. And I like Garry v a lot, even though he's not in my industry. Yeah, I listen to a lot of Garry v and ty Lopez and you know, Casey Adams. I've heard of the name. Definitely. Yeah, he I like them a lot because he's young. He's really young. He started what he was doing at the age I am at right now, so he's nae now, but he has a podcast called right the young, and on it he talks to a lot of young people, which is good for me because a lot of the time it's hard to relate with a forty year old on a pocket even though I love POPs and Curriesy Im as other people. Yeah, I know, I know you mean. It's I mean people like who are that age can learn from you. You know, they can learn from younger people. The might not be the same age, but you can kind of definitely meet in the middle. Like I've noticedides on podcasts of people a different ages and bike grounds and you can kind of find that common ground. If they show that you know, that interests. Yeah, but, like I said, Gary V he kind of like why I really like him as well, and I think what he does anyone can relate to. It doesn't matter what, what kind of business you in. Yes, people can relate to what he says because it's real in you know, with social media and life and how it works. Yeah, he's he's really good with people. I...

...think I'm the youngest jest you've had on your podcast so far. I'd say. Yeah, I'd say I'd say yeah, you are. Yeah, I'm honored. Thank you now. You're welcome. I mean, I'm happy to talk to anyone. And you know, I think it takes a lot to to do a podcast or to go on a podcast, I mean especially on like, you know, instagram and this kind of thing. You know, yeah, you have to take not a risk, but it's you have to put yourself out there and it's going out and fe unknown and they can be can be scary, I mean, especially what you're doing with, you know, this music thing as well. I mean, yeah, it is. It is scary going out into the time. I just recently started just putting out daily content, HMM, on my instagram and the first video I release as like who our people are people going to like this, as I I just put it out there. Who Cares and people people didn't like, my friends commented, and people I didn't even know comforted and like. So I kept going with it. Yeah, he's you know, you've got to do what you're like, passionate about them, what you like, and the thing is that people will support you in what you're doing. In the universe will support you and what you're doing. You always going to get probably that old person. That's a lot of you know, they might say some of the negative, but you know, that's their opinion. It's just an opinion. That's probably how they feel about themselves and they are envious and they want to put you down because you're doing doing something that they're not doing. Yeah, why? I've actually learn this from Grazy, I should add, for them. Yeah, I don't get that. I complete profidence in myself, HMM, and the fact that they have a problem with that. Yeah, that's not good. For that. I learned all that and Gary, you know, have empathy for the people that do that, because they are if they were doing better than you, they would not fit. Yeah, they are sad. That they are down below you. Yeah, that's the only reason that they would ever do that. Yeah, I know, it's that's it. You know, they're they're not happy in themselves and they want to use cause insecurities and up in them and they want to pull you down to the level because you being good or following something or having the confidence. You know, the list goes on. That makes them feel so you know, and you know when you take that perspective of feeling sorry for them, it's you're not giving too much energy to you're you know, you're get frustrate. Its well, you reacts, then they're going to pick up on them. That's well, that's you. You touch on something that has been my personal philosophy. Yeah, about getting angry. I tried, always succeed, but I try to never be angry because just to me, this is like my own I could be told me wrong, but anger kind of shows weakness. Like if you let something makes you angry, then it important to you and it's crucial to whatever you're doing, and that shows that you're relying on something. So I don't like to be angry. I can't choose, but I do it or not. I can I can try but that's that's one of the big things. Don't, don't get angry over anything, not just not just a hair and something doesn't go right. You will and you can maintain your composure. Yeah, you will be so much better. Being angry doesn't doesn't help and it shows that you aren't thinking beyond and you're not thinking of the way to solve the problem. You're thinking of the problem. Yeah, like anger. I mean there's like there's so many levels that lead up to anger. I mean the annoyed, frustrated, and then it just yeah, my artist is an that's great. Seven or seven creaks hopped in a nice how you doing? Yeah, the my anger, my anger, frustration, especially if you argue with someone, you're it's like that game pong, you know, you're hit in the ball and it's just hits coming back to you're not doing anywhere and your mind, it kind of shuts off the logical side of like, you know, reasoning and thinking. It's like if you get involved in a fight, you're full of an adrenaline and yeah, you'll fight or flight responses to start being triggered. So that thinking, logical side in the front, in the front of part of your brain just is gone, is...

...shut off, because, you know, you're responding on over areas. And Yeah, like it's just that balance. It's responding and not reacting. I think what you're saying is nothing. Nothing. You stay when you're angry. Is Correct, which is which is probably true. That also goes along with those other I don't know what I call them, saying hmm, that are like don't make a promise when you're happy, don't whatever, don't change your life where you're said, anything like that. Yeah, that's along the line. Be Aware of your emotional state before you make a decision. That's, I think, what it boils down to it. That's what you're saying. Yeah, now, completely and yeah, Johnny, I don't I doing. Yeah, the emotional state plays must have part in it, and I think, like we react and we don't respond situations. You know, there's especially we're over text. I mean, if you're in a relationship and you're talking to someone, like communication is a massive thing, like you can say something. We all we're all perceiving and painting a picture of what we see. So so, yeah, we you know, one person might say something and we might you know, people have external things happening and other things that might happen in their day and you might say something that pisses that person off and just blows them off. Yeah, your person agree, especially with what's happening in the world right now. I mean the situate. You know, the world's bit of a crazy place in a minute and people can't do the things that they wanted to. Usually do, you know, what brought them happiness. They're not seeing friends and family. So there's a lot of high tensions. And then you throw certain things that you know happen in the media. You know people everyone's kind of, you know, dealing with their own frustration or their own, you know, mental health and it. You know people you know, probably more more septable to reacting to certain things. Based on that, can I do against that? That's all correct. But like if you always wanted to go into lide music management and what you're doing, or is there being a lot of areas that you wanted to go into? Oh my my dream is kind of like how do I describe this? You know, just just that the guy who does everything. You know, I'll have the I'll know the people to be able to do anything. You know, if I, if I wake up one day, Tuesday, eight am, it's two thousand and twenty seven, and I want to start a fast food restaurant and I can call up my Guy Jim. It's a a JEM. I want to start a fast food restaurant. Yeah, that's that's that's my goal. I just want to be able to do anything, because a lot of the time during the day I'll just have these random thoughts like, oh my God, it would be so cool to have air shipping business. You know where I I plan and shit pack it is, and I just have this random thought throughout the day and I think once, once I get there, once I get to a certain level of wealth and connectedness, I just want to be able to execute on those things. HMM. But as far as music goes, right now I really want to build my management company, yeah, Rosie Management, and then I kind of want to have a bunch of other things down off of that. So I want to own promotion companies. I really want to vertically integrate. So I learned this from reading a biography. Who Was it? John D rocket feller, rich is man in history. Yeah, complation adjusted not worth about four hundred billion dollars. Yeah, you controlled like ninety five percent of the oil in the US and he made a lot of his money by vertically integrating, which is he he extracted the oil and then he owned the refineries and then he owned the railways where he would shift the oil, and then he would own the gas stations and all of that. So that's that's what I want to do with music, right. I want to be able to first own the studio record the music and then own the Management Agency managed the artist and I have a stake in...

...the show booking agencies like the book shows. Yeah, and secretly own a video brand, music video brand or music promotion brand, or I can promote the music. So that's that's my perfect music company and my mind, and I don't see that happen a lot. Maybe it's all behind the scenes. I just don't know, but I think someone would do really well if they could do that. And that's Michael. Yeah. Well, I think, like you know, it's good that you you have like a goal inside and you have this this dream of going into that and I think like it's so important to have a dream and a goal and you know things that all have goals that are bigger than ourselves. You know that. That's the key, isn't it? You know, to surround yourself with people who you know spots, be like someone who's better than to have goals that are bigger than those ourselves, and it gives us our motivation to work towards it. It's like I reveal always says I'm going to buy the New York Jezz. I love what he does that because nobody, nobody else at his age says things like that. Yeah, and I also love that he actually might do it some day. You. Yeah, it's super big, even for him. It's super big. I mean, I've heard his net worth is like just less than ten million dollars, right, the jets are how much? I think I looked it up. It was one point two billion. Does that sound right? I love how he saw that and how he bros as it had believe it into and yeah, I think that's that's a great thing to do, even if it's unrealistic. Yeah, don't be don't be illutional, but you can be unrealistic. I know those kind of sound the same. Yeah, but there's a possibility he could do he's all saying, I'm going to be cook a trillionaire, but he is setting super high, realistic goal for myself, and it also hopes that he plans on working until he's like a hundred. He doesn't care. I like him. He's like me were we like what we do and even if it trains us out of fifteen hours of energy a day, we don't care because we like it. Yeah, that's it. And it's like, you know, you'd rather do something that you are passionate about and enjoy, put the time and like, you know, like you got people. I know people got to work. We want to work and do something, but there were people out there who do jobs that they day, that they hate, for eight hours a day and then they drained for the rest of the evening. I dreamed for the rest of the week because, yeah, you know, and I would say to people we know do that. Keep doing what you're doing. He says, I you got rich. How would you this? Thank you. That questionnaires and I what would I do? I probably I wouldn't. I wouldn't do stops anything. I do a little bit of that, but I would I would buy companies. Oh, sorry, I just flips film camera every go. Yeah, I would buy companies. So I would try to vertically integrate, buy music promotion companies. Oh, make that, how are you doing? That's my cousin Nice. See here. I would. Yeah, I would buy music companies. So I buy a studio, even if I didn't immediately vertically integrate, because I think I would just make changes to the business and further extend I am by yeah, I think with that was doing that as well. I mean, people can make so much money through rivertizing. I mean, you know, we with the Internet and social media today, there's almost like there's almost no excuse really, when you think about it, you think of these, you think like years ago. You you, you flip this back two thousand and twenty, forty, fifty years ago, and people making music back them like, how how they made music like and how they got their voice outer, how they market themselves Unli there's no internet, you know, fucking the fifty s and the S, it was all about meeting up, getting together, singing a show and word of mouth from the newspaper in the radio. I actually think about that a lot. I think what would it be like to do stuff without the Internet? And I honestly think I would have fun doing that. HMM, if it right now, if you...

...transported me back to one thousand eight hundred forty, I would be like, Oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna sell things. Yeah, because I just think now, I just think that would be really fun. You know, for some reason I think about that a lot. Advertising without the Internet, even though it's crucial now, I think it would have been really fun just buying billboards and putting out newspaper ads and selling things on the corner. I think I would excel and more than I do now. It's not, you said, it's those people skills. In if those those people skills, because back then it's a few communication, your facetoface, so probably over the phone. Where was? Now it's so much over like the you know, social media and technology basis means. Nothing wrong with that. Like you said, if you're very good at person you know, in personal situations into ransom of people, you'd probably, like you say, benefit in that environment. It's really that. I saw an article by Dr Durnything social media destroys the artist mystique because everything's put out for people to see. There's nothing less to the inactiation. Thanks for that bad I kind of I kind of believe that. I mean yes, if it could do that. But I mean, obviously there's the advertising part of it and I think if you are an artist, you'd rather a hundred people are. You'd rather like a thousand people like you without your mystique and a hundred people like you with your Mystique, because obviously that's more fans. But I also think and do that with social media like Um, you know, kind of like Kanye how he tweets, eat, tweets very interestingly, and yeah, I think he maintains his mystique like that. Or Playboy Cardi, where nobody really ever sees him on social media, key post, but he doesn't interact. So I think you can end the way he talks. You know, I've ever seen playboy Cardi talk. He talks really weirdly. Any tweets in his own made up language, and so I definitely think it's possible to keep your mystique by doing that. But that's that's the hard thing. I also think about this a lot. You can't be a mysterious artist when nobody knows you says somehow. You do have to get people that you socially is the best way to do that. You can't be has like three hundred followers in Instagram and twenty one one. They listeners on spotify and then go ghost for a year and a half or two years, like losy did, because who's going to miss you? Like you have to get to a certain hunt of fame before you can stop doing things that gets you fan it's like being mysterious. Never built suspense for someone that has, I under a million followers. True, there's supreat way to do it. It's almost impossible to survive as an artist without social media. Yeah, yeah, that is correct, and I don't have a problem with that. You know, I know how to use social media and I think that also it kind of tells artists to be smart, you know. Now, even if you make good music, you have to be smart in other aspects, m to survive as an artist, and I think that's a good thing, because we're reading out the stupid artist that don't really deserve to do that. Yeah, so I think it's good that there is another factor limiting your success if you can't do it, because it's it's like survival of the fittest. If you're not good at marketing, you're not going to do well, and then you should go teat yourself about market if you're not going to do well in social media, and I know pad you do well, I'm not. I'm not talking about you. I have your lives and your post good stuff. Yeah, no, I totally agree. Lies and altars like you've got to you luck a, you know, one mom bound on you like you've got a malky solve in all these different areas. Just not just a music is so many avenues to it. You know, Prob we want to not yet. Well, I like. No, you think of it, this clothing is, you know, there's appetizing, there's the music branding, my se many avenues and wause, you're in the public lame light as well. You probably have to be careful about the things you say, what you do...

...in your actions, because I could affect your music cells, I could fact your audience. Yeah, like, that's one thing I think is actually good about rappers. For some reason people, there's a quite obvious reason, people think rappers aren't like the most morally good people, which obviously, at the surface level, is not good. Right. There are definitely rappers who are educated and no stuff. That's just stupid to assume that if it's. But people don't put the filter on rappers like they do other artists, and I think that's a good thing that there are certain things that only a rapper could tweet, but area on the grand date cut it because people, I don't really know how to to stride it. Just rappers don't have that people watching them as closely, and I think that's a good thing for artist. They freedom, you know, created freedom. No, it's definitely true. If you haven't heard of a guy called all of a true, yes, yes, I love all of retreat. Actually, about a month and a half ago. I am also very big fan of low Yadi and I saw the tracklist for a little bow three, is his album that just dropped, and I saw Oliver Tree and I got really excited. He wasn't on the album, but yeah, so I do like Oliver Treat. I've listened to this stuff quite a bit. Yeah, my once to say about them because my brother lie listens to his music a lot and I never heard of him and then my brother played his music and then my brother got some tickets to go and see him live. Yeah, so I went as well and I never heard of his music. I was just saying like a point being is like his music is so different and you needn't think like it's quite deep as well, and I think like how he portrays himself. You know his image, and I think as an artist and then the industry, you have to be yourself, don't you have to be yourself. You can't be like, you know, the next semm because there is eminem's. Sorry about that. Yeah, and that's that's why I like about music, because you can be yourself in the stuff that you put out, like an artist, a music artist and an actor. They're both artists, musicians and actors, but I think the musician has a lot more freedom because they can put themselves into any of their projects. They can make their music however they want, you know, district disregarding what the label forces them to do or whatever. Artist can do whatever they want, which is cool, and actors cannot. They are told by a director what they have to do. So that's that's why music is cool, because artists almost a hundred percent of the time decide how they are represented as they put their stuff out. M Yeah, I mean it's one of the probably one of the hardest industries, like acting and film to get into. Is Now music, because so it's cook doesn't mean the same much competition. I mean there's so much competition. In a way, yes, and in a way now with with acting in film, it's either you get lucky and it's super easy or you can't. M Oliver Tree as a lot of Oh yeah, yeah, I haven't see as youtube videos, but I'll be sure to check them out. He's crazy. But what was I going to say? Oh, the music industry. And the music industry, I think anybody has the ability to release a song and stribute it everywhere. So I think it's more fair that way. Even if there's a lot more competition, it's again survival of the fitted. So some artists blow up, but for the most part, if you work hard, you'll do well. And I like that about the music industry. Opposed to the film industry, I'm not one hundred percent sure about it, but you can't just you can't really start small as an actor. Yes, you can do commercials, but it's hard to get that first commercials. Anybody, anybody ever can take a my sing some words, put it over be and release it and then they're in y in the sheet. They have become an artist, whereas it's a lot harder to do that as an actor. I think. Yeah, it's I...

...think like you would music and acting. It's it's just having that one person see you who's probably, you know, the right person to see you, who might have a little experience or singing themselves or work for record label. Isn't it your friends saying for me passion? Yes, yes, that's I actually like to work with artists like that, because I describe myself as someone who does the other had everything but the making of the music it. And so, yeah, I when I'm looking for an artist, I first look for passion music and good music and I can help them with building up there instagram or whatever, you know. So thank you for saying that. But Oh, so you're saying it takes that one person. Yeah, what I like about the music industry, although it is like that, it is definitely like that, it's less like that than film, this mm because you know, you need you need to know someone to get into a movie, but you don't need to know someone to get your song to blow up. M Yeah, no, Sir, a music song on there is there is room for independence in the music industry. That's why they are independent artists like chance the rapper, and I can't think of another one off my head, but there's there's no actor that made it making their own movies. They always had to get jobs from people that were making movious. Yeah, no, it's definitely. Yeah, I think, like all your friends said, you know, like not just you know, folks on the marks and side. You have to kind of understand the artists and the music and not just be so comming from a visions on my marking down on musical. You have to you know a lot you like so be interested in the music. Is a pulled them in the whereas we all people out there or agents for people of music or the acting. They're just so focused on that sort of vision. Get them out, but not they just seen them as like a cash cow conofin. Yeah, yeah, that's a problem, but it's just gotten be with the right people in the yeah, like, it's only like musical. It's just that you like. Well, TONS DDG at bomb artist. It's not his music that I am a super big fan of, but I know he runs a bunch of companies and is also a youtuber and the way he does everything, I think that's really cool. One of my yes to have a team. MMM, I mean even just a one person team. Yeah, you and someone else, way better than one hundred percent solo. But yeah, DDG. He has a bunch of businesses, which I think. I think it's really cool and I like Liya. He's been one of my favorite rappers. Yeah, let me think about this. There are a few other musicians who run businesses and I think I think that's really cool that they branched out like a rich to kid. He has he has his own label and I think the only way, or so some of those artists, to survive, is to have their own company, because a company will survive no matter if their music is poppet, because they can design new artists. But at certain points and artist will buy. Yeah, they will go out of style. Yeah, know, so, definitely, isn't it? It's not. It's quite tricky bounce, isn't it? It's like, I suppose if people assigned for themselves, they can release music whenever they want to release it. I know all of the Tree said a lot of movie says. You did a podcast and he's talking about record labels and he signs often universal. He's got his massive budgets that he was saying he can't release the music when he wants to release them his record label and, you know, controlling. That is the problem with the labels. They are they are weird. They they control all kinds of things, but things like that and they, how do I say this? They they're just controlling. You know, I heard a story from my chance, the rappers manager, oh, he's also one of my role models, and he was Shaying Jess, the rapper, he had...

...like features from Kanye and someone else or whatever, and the labels, right before the album drive, the labels were calling chances manager and saying, Hey, you can't drop this, like this has a feature in common. He just drops it out, but we don't want this distracting like if chance had been signed to a label, he wouldn't be able to do that, but because he was independent, you could do what you want. Yeah, yes, that, it just is how weird big labels are like they do everything to make sure every single string goes to a certain songer artist on it. But my thoughts on live music, I can't, I can't say I cannot watch Todas, nor club give good advice because I'm not a live music expert. I I don't think there will be as many online shows as people say, because nobody really wants to go to an online show, even if it's what they have to do now. On my shows are just kind of boring. I that's really the only inns that I have on. I I saw reading on school. So I was searching how nightclubs are going to be effected and balls in the music scene and nightclubs and they I think his name, this guy, was saying basically they're going to be have to like space out. So only set in my people can go in to the events and then they have to kind of spay, like kind of space out. I think they have to do it some somewhere like that. On he allows to people and I think that might ruin in the vis a. lot of people like going to clubs where they're packed in, everybody is more together. Yes, I think. I think if you make people stay shout, it won't be good. Many people be interested in doing see's the kind of purpose of a lot of mental purposesn't yeah, but there's is an interesting documentary on Netflix about music. It's got it's got Dr Dre and I'll find out what it's calling off under you, but it's it's about Dr Dre and him making the music and it's got like Eminem's in it and too much. Sorry about that, by my phone just got it. Yeah, it's really good documentary, not like really showcases, like the insides about the music industry and especially the death dumb records and how you know all the insides that you don't really see. A lot of corruption. Yeah, define ones. That's a definant ones. Really really good bye. During I like stuff like that because a lot of people don't know what big labels do and it is weird and are still stuff people don't know about. I mean it was the universal or shown me that they had charges for like human trafficking and selling drugs and stuff like that. To keep, to keep for two reasons. To keep their heart is happy, right, they give him drugs. That's the only way to keep them with the label. And human trafficking is because agreements. Yeah, especially in like the S to s, they were almost like the slave agreement you would have. You would have a show one night and then a show across the country and the next twenty hours, and it was so bad that it was considered human trafficking. Like they were moving all literally is so bad that they just had no control over their lives. So I'm glad that's a little bit different now because people have been more aware about it. But yeah, just it's interesting stuff. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean like there I was in John Movie that I Wass in John Movie. I don't think I've seen it, and his his manager was like like that. You know, you go in here, you doing this. That's the thing. You know, like especially the tensions must be high. People are on tour as well, and the label saying, you go in here, you doing this. But like, I think, I think you know, like what you're going into. I think it's really, really good stop. You know you're going out into the world. There's something you're passionate about. You've got a friend who makes music. He's passionate about it, and I think, like, you know you continue on this road, that you're wrong. You know big things are going to happen. Just don't you know if people are being negative about...

...it down this is the just do want you your friends. Thank you, Adam. Know you will come there. You possibly appreciate that. Yeah, is there anything else we need to cover? Yeah, I also say you have about books that you want to read. Books Book. I'm reading two books right now. Actually, it's a very, very good books. This one people work about focus. How lowport, I don't know who they are, but it's about staying focused and it's really great as helping me a lot. Hasn't read too much of it, but it's really good. And then this one. I mean there's not a single person who doesn't recommend this book, how to win friends. It's people. Yeah, I to be honest, haven't found it as impressive it's other people say it is, but it definitely helped me. I'm just interactions and other books that I like will for for any business. I think reading the book about law, it's helpful. You got to make contracts, you've got to do all that stuff. Let me think, I have my bookshelf over there. I got to think about it. I've heard a lot of investing books. Yeah, Wall Street or that. That's a great movie. That's one of my favorite movies ever. I actually yeah, that's that's really cool. It's even crazy that most of that is true. Oh, yeah, that's anyway. Books. Yeah, I think these are my two main books. I like them a lot and it's it's always hard to think of stuff like that. You're on the spot. Yeah, it comes to me at one end today. Yeah, yeah, that's what I like that. But if you, if you ever read Napoleon hills, thinking grow rich. Oh, I've heard that book a lot, I have not read it. Yeah, you need to read I'd read thinking grow rich by the pulling hill. It was written in a lot of the nineteen s or s and it talks about, you know, your mindset, your faults and how your fats become things, and that's quite a good book. Oh, I actually have I do have a few books these. These also happened to meet my three shatter books, ever, but they taught me a lot. First one Jonathan living from Seagle. It's you know that book. I've heard a pretty old time. Yeah, it's about it. It's about a seagual too, like pushes himself to fly like a hundred miles an hour or something. It's it's a very interesting and Corky book. It's pretty short. That's one of my all time favorites. It's very unorthodox book, but I love it. And then the way the people warrior very good for mindset and I aspire to be the peaceful warrior. That's really good one. And the last one in my all time favorite book and something that actually taught me the most, is the Godfather. You may not think that the God father moves to film the film the book. I haven't actually seen the film, but I've read the book right the original book, and it is so good and it's more than just entertainment. It teaches you stuff. One of the main things I learned from that book is never make a move out of weakness, just just like we were talking about earlier. Yeah, don't make a decision unless you're where of your emotional state. Same exact thing, if you there are a few times where I've just been so burned out, thinking, all I should just quit doing this music stuff. You know, why don't I just dissolve it all right now? I have the power to do that there. But the Godfather, at the very end of the book, they plan on moving to Las Vegas. Right, they kind of moving attend Las Vegas. They're kind of slowing down, but they don't want to make it seem like a different treat so what they do is they kill every single other mafia boss, all the four other big ones, and then they move because they didn't. They wanted to make sure that they weren't making that move out of weakness. They wanted to make sure it was a move out of strength. Or don't pivot off your week foot. You know, regain your balance and pivot off a strong foot. That's something I think about a lot and I learned the job target and there are there are a few other many lessons in there about how the Godfather runs his operation. But read the Godfather. I I agree with the I thinks, like you said, if...

...you're like feel tired or frustrated or you feel a certain way and you make certain decisions based on certain emotional states, you can probably regret it the next day. Or you know, you're not your full self, with your not a good emotional state, you're going to make very good decisions in a negative emotional state. Always have, always have clarity before you change anything. Yeah, I agree, but not like its being fantastic talking to TJ and youtube. Thank you, Adam. I will appreciate it and I'm happy. I'm the youngest guest. This is this is going out to spotify and stuff. Right, you're yeah, yeah, all right, I'll just tell people my instagram is at pro you, Scach Prochet, and you can also check out my podcast. It's called triple them with Bj Rochet. Thank you bad I interview people from the Music Industry and my second episode will be dropping tomorrow Nice. So thank you so much, Adam. Know you really appreciate me. Keep out of keep doing it, and it's just being like consistent. I mean I've been doing it for since January. My me and my advice is just keep doing it, keep putting out, even if one a week, you know, one a week to week, you know, like yeah, and I'll be happy to come on yours as well. Yeah, yeah, I actually, if it's okay with you, I I might have a segment of this just released online as well. Yeah, yeah, so good, perfect. Thank you so much, Adam. I'm a great damn, it's take easily. I.

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