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Episode 22 · 1 year ago

The Parrsitivity Podcast #Episode 80 PJ Rousche

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In this Podcast I'm with PJ Rousche he's a music artist manager, in this podcast we talk about role models, the music industry, the competitiveness of getting into music, motivation and much more! Had a really great chat with PJ, definitely check him out and his Podcast Instagram: @prousche --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/the-parrsitivity-podcast/message

Hither. My name is Adam Po and the podcast host posity to podcast. In this podcast, you will be listened to me connect with people from different walks of life, from the military to people in the music industry, to people in the self help industry and many other areas of life. In this podcast I'll be talking about topics from self help, mental health, motivation, spirituality, mindset, society, current affairs and much, much more. If you enjoy this podcast, please subscribe, share and let me know your feedback. And my main intention on this podcast is to have a positive impact for you, the lit the listener, to take something positive from it, to apply something positive into your life from this. Now, with without further ado, let's go to podcast and enjoy him. What was the party? Is A podcast. Today's episode I'm with Pr Rouchet, is a PR music artist manager. In this episode we talked about the music industry, much, much more. Sit Back, relax, enjoy this up. So, yeah, how you get into what you do? My friend sitting at a table four years ago and he said I'm going to be a rapper. I was like, okay, all right, I'll be your manager. That's really that's really how simple it was and then, I mean he was just on the sound cloud for the first year. Got We got excited over five hundred plays when we got it and it's really not that big. And then a year after that I started my own label. M It was another one of those things. We were just sitting there and we're thinking, why don't I have a label? I would be cool. Like I I'm always wanted to have my own business and like have that power, and so I just decided to do it. We decided on the name and like another five minutes, one dollar records and from then on I gathered a group and did pretty well and now I'm kind of scaling back on that. I'm really trying to focus on managing because the original artist, I'm only with him now. We're trying to focus on getting a deal and moving a lot higher. So he has all my energy now and one hundred percent managers. Awesome. Mean, how old are you? I'm sixteen and Sixteen. Yeah, I mean it's a big thing to do as well, I mean especially you know fat play. I mean it's all to you for doing that. Sixteen. I mean, like I'm twenty six and I don't want to think of the thing up if you was to think of that. So down up a record label below Jeez. Yeah, I know. I can't wait until I'm like thirty and I can say I have seventeen years of experience and then see them do the math in their head. What? Yeah, they talk me wrong. Yeah, no, not to thee and the thing is like age, just the number isn't and if you want to follow something, you want to do something, then yes, you should have let that hold you back. Yeah, well, that's...

...almost one hundred percent the case, except for the fact of being able to drive and being able to legally sign contract. Yeah, does it? Those are the really only two things that can limit me. I can get around them, right, I can get an adult to sign the contract on behalf of my company and set it up so it's all people. But yeah, it's really it's really not that bad. But the other thing, the other problem, challenge, is being taken seriously, you know, on the sophomore in high school, even though I've been doing this for three and a half, four years. Yeah, if I'm trying to represent my artist, yeah, and I'm talking to say, a label rap, and they see I'm sixteen, that's really like a my reputation. So that's that's hard because I don't want to lie. I'm not going to say, Oh, yeah, I'm nineteen. That's never good, but it's also not the best thing to be sixteen and half to tell them that. Yeah, I mean the thing is that ages, when it's the thing of ages on it, like a lot of people get judged by that age and I experience, and the thing all like you're certain age young. Got Experience in this like well, there's a quote and it's like something like it's not the years in your life, but the life in your years. Yeah, you can two thousand and twenty one and have more life experience and be a deeper person than someone who's fifty. Yeah, I totally agree and I think judging by age is bad, but I really don't think there's anything wrong with judge it by experience. That's something a lot of people confuse. Like, if you judge me by my age, that would not be good for me. Fifteen is not an age synonymous with having tons of experience, but if you judge me by having three and a half, four years of experience, then you would actually see the pictures that. Yeah, I have a problem with ages and but not experiences. Yeah, not exactly. YEA, and I think, like you know, it's great that you're following your passion and you're doing something that is all of interest to you, and that's what it's all about, isn't it, because you know you're doing something you love and you enjoy. You're working with someone who's passionate about music. Yeah, that's that's the biggest thing, because I love this, I love what I do. At Sixteen, I have absolutely no reason to be working the amount I do. I didn't want to, I could quit right now. But thing is, I just love it so much, and people do not understand that. That are how can you do something for twelve hours a day and, yeah, be happy? I love it. That's that's it. I really, really love doing yeah, and everything. Some of it is tedious and boring, but most of it is. What kind of music does this guy do like? What kind of music you into? Hip Hop. So that's that's my specialty. Nice. In terms of music I'm into, I like all music, and anybody in the music industry should like all music because they should know a lot about it. But I specialize in hip hop. I listen to it a lot and I've never really straight from hip hop. I do provide services and help other people outside of hip hop, but I would never manage an artist or try to sign an artist that wasn't hip hop. Er All be yeah, like and I suppose like we've got John as well asn't you kind of would you? Would you like sign this person? To you looking just to focus on one genre music, like the artists, or you mean like subgenres, a hip hop? I mean like are you looking to me in the future, like a different dramas of music? In that future I hope to have a gigantic entertainment company that rifles WMG, so music, universal music. So I will not confine myself to any job, but I am considering there's like a subgenres hip hop, that I'm working in right now and that I really like. So I'm considering keeping that from an energy time menagement company for a while. But the end goal in twenty plus years, no genre will define my ventures, MMM and goals. Yeah, no, that's it isn't it's in. It opens a few opportunities. So then go and do you like say, not selecting just one audience. You can then be open. Yeah,...

...like who do you have like an Elive? Mentors are like role models that you like the couples? I wish I had mentors. I've been looking for mentors. They're hard to find, but definitely a ton of role models. I forget the guys and the guy that started deaf jam. Yeah, it's yeah, I know who you mean, or his name. And Scooter Brown. I've seen a lot of Maories. The interviews with him super cool and I like how he works and I like Carry v a lot, even though he's not in my industry. Yeah, I listen to a lot of Garry v and ty Lopez and you know Casey Adams. I've heard of the name. Definitely the name. Yeah, he I like them a lot because he's young. He's really young. He started what he was doing at the age I am at right now, so he's nineteen now. But he has a podcast called Rice the young, and on it he talks to a lot of young people, which is good for me because a lot of the time it's hard to relate with a forty year old on a pocket even though I love tylopers and carsy on other people. Yeah, I know, I know you mean. It's I mean people like who are that age can learn from you. You know, they can learn from younger people. The moneill be the same age, but you can kind of definitely meet in the middle. Like I've noticed Oddam podcasts of people different ages and bike grounds and you can kind of find not common ground if they show that you know that interests. Yeah, but, like you said, Gary V, he kind of like why I really like him as well, and I think what he does anyone can relate to. It doesn't matter what, what kind of Business Ron. Yes, people can relate to what he says because it's real in you know, with social media and life and how it works. Yeah, I know he's he's really good with people. Do you think I'm the youngest jest you've had on your podcast so far? I'd say yeah, I'd say I'd say yeah, you are. Yeah, I'm honored. Thank you now. You're welcome. I mean, I'm happy to talk to anyone. And you know, I think it takes a lot to do a podcast or to go on a podcast, I mean especially on my you know, instagram and this kind of thing. You know, yeah, you have to take not a risk, but it's you have to put yourself out there and it's going out into the unknown and they can be can be scary. I mean especially what you're doing with, you know, this music thing as well. I mean, yeah, it is. It is scary going out into that time. I just recently started just putting out daily content, HMM, on my instagram, and the first video I really says like our people, are people going to like this? As I just put it out there, who cares? And people people did, like my friends commented and people I didn't even know comforted and really like. So I kept going with it. Yeah, he's you know, you've got to do what you're like, passionate about them, what you like, and the thing is people will support you in what you're doing. In the universe will support you what you're doing. You're always going to get probably that old person. That's a lot of you know, they might say some negative but you know, that's their opinion. It's just an opinion. That's probably how they feel about themselves and they are envious and they want to put you down because you're doing doing something that they're not doing. Yeah, why, I've actually under some grazy I should ad for them. Yeah, I don't get that completely. PROBENCE in myself. HMM, and the fact that they have a problem with that. Yeah, that's not good. For that I learned all that and Gary, you know, had empathy for the people that do that because they are if they were doing better than you, they would not fit. Yeah, they are sad that they are down below you. Yeah, that's the only reason that they would ever do that. Yeah, I know, it's that's it. You know, they're they're not happy in themselves and they want to use cause insecurities and not in them and they want to pull you down to their level because you being good or following something or having the con wouldn't you know that this goes on? That makes them feel so, you know, and you know when you take that perspective of feeling sorry for them, it's you're not giving too much energy to your you know, you'll get frustrate. It's well, you reacts, then they're...

...going to pick up on them. That's well, that's you touched on something that has been my personal philosophy. Yeah, about getting angry. I T I fried always succeed, but I try to never be angry because to just to me, this is like my own I could be told me wrong, but anger kind of shows weakness to like, if you let something make you angry, then it's important to you and it's crucial to whatever you're doing, and that shows that you're relying on something. So I don't like the angry. I can't choose, but I do it or not. I can, I can try, but that's one of the big things. Don't, don't get angry over anything, not just not just a hatter, and something doesn't go right, you will and you can maintain your composure. Yeah, you will be so much better. Being angry doesn't doesn't help and it shows that you are thinking beyond and you're not thinking of the the way to solve the problem. You're thinking of the problem. Yeah, like anger. I mean there's like there's so many levels that lead up to anger, I mean the annoyed for strator, and then it just like yeah, my artist is doing that's great. Seven or seven creaks helped in a nice how you doing? Yeah, we like anger. Like anger, frustration, especially if you're arguing with someone. You're it's like that game pong. You know you're hitting the ball and it's just hits coming back to you're not going anywhere and your mind it kind of shuts off the logical side of like, you know, reasoning and thinking. It's like if you get involved in a fight, you're full of an adrenaline and, yeah, your fight or flight responses start being triggered. So that thinking, logical side in the front, in the front of part of your brain just is gone, is shut off because you know you're responding on over areas. Then, yeah, like it's just that balance. It's responding and not reacting. I think what you're saying is nothing. Nothing. You stay when you're angry is correct, which is which is probably true. That also goes along with those other I don't know what I call um saying hmm, that are like don't make a promise when you're happy. Don't whatever, don't change your life. Were said? Anything like that? Yeah, that's along the line. Yeah, be aware of your emotional state before you make a decision. That's, I think, what a boils down. That's what you're saying. Yeah, now, completely. And yeah, Johnny, I don't. I don't. Yeah, the emotional state plays massive part in it and I think like we react and we don't respond to situations. You know, there's especially we're over text. I mean if you're in a relationship and you're talking to someone, like communication is a massive thing, like you can say something. We're all we're all perceiving and painting a picture of what we see. So so, yeah, we you know, one person might say something and we might, you know, people have external things happening and other things, I might happen in their day and you might say something that pisses that person off and just blows them off. Yeah, person agree, especially with what's happening in the world right now. I mean the situate. You know, the world's bit of a crazy place in a minute and people can't do the things that they wanted to. Usually do, you know, what brought them happiness? They're not see being friends and family. So there's not a lot of high tensions. And then you throw certain things that you know happened in the media. You know, people everyone come out, you know, dealing with their own frustration or the Roman, you know, mental health and it. You know, people you know, probably more more suitable to reacting to certain things. Based on that. Ye, that's I mean, can I do against that? That's all correct. But like if you always want to go into lode music management and what you're doing, or is there being a lot over areas that you wanted to go into? Oh my my, my dream is kind of like how do I describe this?...

You know, just just that the guy who goes everything. You know, I'll have the I'll know the people to be able to do anything. You know, if I if I wake up one day, Tuesday, eight am, it's two thousand and twenty seven, and I want to start a fast food restaurant and I can call up my Guy Jin, it's a agent. I want to start a fast food restaurant. Yeah, that's that's that's my goal. I just want to be able to do anything, because a lot of the time during the day I'll just have these random talks like, oh my God, it would be so cool to have air shipping business. You know where I fly planes and ship package is, and I just have this random thought throughout the day and I think once, once I get there, once I get to a certain level of wealth and connectedness, I just want to be able to execute on those things. HMM. But as far as music goes, right now I really want to build my management company. Yeah, Russian management, and then I kind of want to have a bunch of other things down off of that. So I want to own promotion companies. I really want to vertically integrate. So I learned this from reading a biography. Who Was it? John Dey, rocket seller, rich is man in history. Yeah, complation adjusted net worth about four hundred billion dollars. Yeah, he controlled like ninety five percent of the oil in the US and he made a lot of his money by vertically integrating, which is he he extracted the oil and then he owned the refineries and then he owned the railways where he would shift the oil, and then he would own the gas stations and all that. So that's that's what I want to do with music, right. I want to be able to first own the studio record the music and then own the Management Agency managed the artist, and I have a stake in the show booking agencies like the book shows. Yeah, and secretly own a video brand, music video brand or music promotion brand I can promote the music. So that's that's my perfect music company in my mind, and I don't see that happen a lot. Maybe it's all behind the scenes, I just don't know, but I think someone would do really well if they could do that, and that's Michael. Yeah, well, I think, like you know, it's good that you you have like a goal inside and you have this this dream of going into that and I think like it's so important to have a dream and a goal and, you know, things that are to have goals that are bigger than ourselves. You know, that's that's the key, isn't it? You know, to surround yourself with people who, you know, spies, be like someone who's better than you, to have goals that are bigger than those ourselves, and it gives us our motivation to work towards it's like going the always say I'm going to buy the New York Jezz. I love when he does that because nobody, nobody else at his age says things like that. Yeah, and I also love that he actually might do it some day. Your yeah, it's super big, even for him. It's super big. I mean, I've heard his net worth is like just less than ten million dollars, right, the jets are how much? I think I looked it up. It was one point two billions. Is that sound right? I love how he saw that and hows as it had to leave it into and yeah, I think that's that's a great thing to do, even if it's unrealistic. Yeah, don't be don't be illutional, but you can be unrealistic. I know those kind of sound the same. Yeah, but there's a possibility. He could do. He's not saying I'm going to be cover a trillionaire, but he is setting super high, realistic goal for myself. And it also helps that he plans on working until he's like a hundred. He doesn't care. I like him. He's like me were we like what we do and even if it rains us out of fifteen hours of energy a day, we don't care because we like it. Yeah, that's it, and it's like, you know, you'd rather do something that you are passionate about and enjoy, put the time and, like, you know, like you got people, many people got to work. We want to work and do something, but there are people out there who do jobs that the day that they hate for eight hours a day and then the...

...dreams for the rest of the eason. I. Dreams for the rest of the week. You could is yeah, you know, and I would say to people we know do that, keep doing what you're doing. He says you got rich. How would you thus thank you that question arrison. I what would I do? I probably I wouldn't. I wouldn't do stocks anything. I do a little bit of that, but I would. I would buy companies. Sorry, I just flips from camera every go. Yeah, I would buy company. So I would try to vertically integrate, buy music promotion companies. Oh, if that, how are you doing? That's my cousin Nice. Don't see in here. I would. Yeah, I would buy music companies. So I buy a studio, even if I didn't immediately vertically integrate, because I think I would just make changes to the business and further extend I am buying. Yeah, I think with that was doing that as well. I mean people can make so much money through rivertizing. I mean, you know, with with the Internet and social media today, there's almost like there's almost no excuse really, when you think about it, you think of these, you think like years ago, you you, you flip this back two thousand and twenty, forty, fifty years ago, and people making music by out them like how how they made music like and how they got the voice out there and how they market themselves La. There's no Internet, you know, fucking the fists and the s. It was all about meeting up, getting together, singing a show and word of mouth in the newspaper, in the radio. I actually think about that a lot. I think what would it be like to do stuff without the Internet, and I honestly think I would have fun doing that. If it right now, if you transported me back to one thousand nine hundred and forty, I would be like, Oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna sell things. Yeah, because I just think now, I just think that would be really fun. You know, for some reason I think about that a lot. Advertising without the Internet, even though it's crew from now. I think it would have been really fun just buying billboards and putting out newspaper ads and selling things on the corner. I think I would sell then more than I do now. It's, like you said, it's those people skills, and if those, those people skills, because but then it's a few communication you facetoface, so probably over the phone, where was now it's so much over like the you know, social media and technology basis and means. Nothing wrong with that. But, like you said, if you're very good at person you know in personal situations, it's acting with people, you'd probably, like you say, benefit in not vironment it's three that I saw an article by Dr Durn saying social media destroys the artist mystique because everything is put out for people to see. There's nothing less to the immactiation. Thanks for that bad I kind of I kind of believe that. I mean, yes, if it could do that, but I mean obviously there's the advertising part of it and I think if you are an artist, you'd rather a hundred people or you'd rather like a thousand people like you without your mystique and a hundred people like you with your Mystique, because obviously that's more fans. But I also think that you can do that with social media, like, you know, kind of like Kanye how he tweets. He tweets very interestingly and yeah, I think he maintains his mystique like that. Or Playboy Cardi, where nobody really ever sees him on social media, key post, but he doesn't interact. So I think you can end the way he talks. You know, I've ever seen playboy Cardi talk. He talks really weirdly. Any tweets in his own made up language, and so I definitely think it's possible to keep your mystique by doing that, but that's that's the hard thing. I also think about this a lot. You can't be a mysterious artist when nobody knows you. So somehow you do have to get people that you. Socially is the best way to do that. You can't be as like three hundred followers in Instagram and twenty one one they listeners on spotify and then go ghosts for a year and a half or two years, like losy did, because who's going to miss you?...

Like you have to get into a certain hunt of fame before you can stop doing things that get you fair. It's like being mysterious. Never built suspense for someone that has, I under a million followers. True, there's a right way to do it. It's almost impossible to live as an artist at that social media. Yeah, yeah, that is correct, and I don't have a problem with that. You know, I know how to use social media and I think that also it kind of hells artist to be smart. You know now, even if you make good music, you have to be smart in other aspects to survive as an artist, and I think that's a good thing, because we're reading out the stupid artist that don't really deserve to do that. Yeah, so I think it's good that there is another factor limiting your success if you can't do it, because it's it's like stravel at the fittest. If you're not good at marketing, you're not going to do well, and then you should go teep yourself about market if you're not going to do well in social media, and I know pad you do well, I'm not. I'm not talking about you. I have your lives and your post good stuff. Yeah, no, I totally agreel lies. An artist like you've got to luck a you know, one mom bund on you, like you've got a Marky self in all these different areas. It's not just a music. is so many avenues to it. You're probably find to not as well. Like, no, you think of it this clothing. There is you know, there's appetizing, there's the music, the branding, so many avenues. And because you're in the public limeline as well, you probably have to be careful about the things you say or what you do in your actions, because I could affect your music selves. I could have felt your audience. Yeah, like that's one thing I think is actually good about rappers. For some reason, people I mean, there is a quite obvious reason people think rappers aren't like the most morally good people, which obviously, at the surface level, is not good. Right. There are definitely rappers who are educated and no stuff. That's just stupid to assume that it's. But people don't put the filter on rappers like they do other artists, and I think that's a good thing that there are certain things that only a rapper could tweet. But area on the grand date it because people, I don't really know how to describe it, just rappers don't have that people watching them as closely and I think that's a good thing for artist. They freedom, you know, created freedom. No, it's definitely true. If you have a hood of a guy called all of the tree. Yes, yes, I love Oliver Treat. Actually, about a month and a half ago, I I am also very big fan of low Yatti, and I saw the tracklist for Lobo three, is his album that just dropped, and I saw Oliver Tree and I got I got really excited. He wasn't on the album, but yeah, so I do like Oliver Treat. I've listened to the stuff quite a bit. Yeah, my what do you want to say about them? Because my brother, I listens to his musical and I never heard of him and then my brother played his music and then my brother got some tickets to go and see him live. Yeah, so I went as well and I never heard of his music. I was just saying, like a point being is like his music is so different and you need I think, like it's quite deep as well, and I think like how he portrays himself, you know his image, and I think as an artist and then the industry, you have to be yourself, don't you have to be yourself. You can't be like, you know, the next seminem, because there's emine. It's sorry about that. Yeah, and that's that's why I like about music, because you can be yourself in the stuff that you put out, like an artist, a music artist and an actor. To both artists, musicians and actors, but I think the musician has a lot more free thom...

...because they can put themselves into any of their projects. They can make their music however they want, you know, district disregarding what the label forces them to do or whatever. Artist can do whatever they want, which is cool, and actors cannot. They are told by a director what they have to do. So that's that's why music is cool, because artists almost a hundred percent of the time decide how they are represented as they put their stuff out. M Yeah, I mean it's one of the probably one of the hardest industries, like acting in film to get into. Is Now music, because so it's doesn't mean so much competition. I mean there's so much competition. In a way, yes, and in a way now with with acting in film, it's either you get lucky and it's super easy or you can m Oliver Tree as Alata. Oh Yeah, yeah, I haven't see as youtube videos, but I'll be sure to check them out. He's crazy. But what was I going to say? Oh, but the music industry. In the music industry, I think anybody has the ability to release a song instribute it everywhere. So I think it's more fair that way, even if there's a lot more competition at again, survival of the fitted. So some artists blow up, but for the most part, if you work hard, you'll do well. And I like that about the music industry. Opposed to the film industry. I'm not one hundred percent sure about it, but you can't just you can't really start small as an actor. Yes, you can do commercials, but it's hard to get that first commercials. Anybody, anybody ever can take a mic, sing some words, put it over, be and release it and then they're in us, in the sheet. They have become an artist, whereas it's a lot harder to do that as an actor. I think. Yeah, it's I think you would music and acting. It's it's just having that one person see you who's probably, you know, the right person to see you, who might have a would that experience or singing themselves or work for record label, isn't it? The friends saying for me is passion. Yes, yes, that's I actually like to work with artists like that, because I describe myself as someone who does the other high everything but the making of the music. And so yeah, I when I'm looking for an artist, I first look for passion music and good music and I can help them with building up there instagramm or whatever, you know. So thank you for saying that. But Oh, so you're saying it takes out one person. Yeah, what I like about the music industry, although it is like that. It is definitely like that, it's less like that than film. It HMM, because you know, you need, you need to know someone to get into a movie, but you don't need to know someone to get your song to blow up. HMM. Yeah, no, Sir, I think the music started on it. There is there is room for independence in the music industry. That's why they are independent artists like Chand the rapper, and I can't think of another one off my head, but there's there's no actor that made it making their own movies. They are it's had to get jobs from people that were making movious. Yeah, no, it's definitely H I think, like all your friends said, you know, like not just you know, folks on the marketing side. You have to kind of understand the artists and the music and not just be so kind of Fuma visions on my marketing down the musical you have to you know about like so be interested in the music and support them in that, whereas we lot people out there or agents for people of music or the acting they're just so focused on that sort of vision. Get them out, but not they just see them as like a cash cow. Kind of fine. Yeah, yeah, that's a problem, but it's just gotten be with the right people in yeah, like it's only like musical it's just not you like well, tons DDG,...

...at Bob artist. It's not his music that I'm a super big fan of, but I know he runs a bunch of companies and is also a Youtuber, and the way he does everything. I think that's really cool. One of my yes to have a team. MMM, I mean even just a one person team. Yeah, you and someone else, way better than one hundred percent solo. But yeah, DDG, he has a bunch of businesses, which I think. I think it's really cool, and I like Liya. He's been one of my favorite rappers. Let me think about this. There are a few other musicians who run businesses and I think I think that's really cool that they branched out like a rich ticket. He has he has his own label, and I think the only way, or so some of those artists, to survive, is to have their own company, because a company will survive no matter if their music is popular, because they can just sign new artists. But at certain points and artist will buy. Yeah, they will go out of style. Yeah, I know. So, definitely, isn't it? It's not. It's quite tricky pouncesn't it? It's like, I suppose if people assigned for themselves. They can release music whenever they wants to release it. So now all of a tree, so a lot of those you did a podcast news talking about record labels, the signs of thin universal. He's got his massive budgets that he was saying he can't release the music when he wants to release them his record label and, you know, controlling. That is the problem with labels. They are they are weird. They they control all kinds of things, but things like that and they, how do I say this? They they're just controlling. You know, I heard a story from my chance, the rappers manager. He's also one of my role models, and he was saying chess, the rapper, he had like features from Kanye and someone else or whatever, and the labels, right before the album drop, the labels were calling chances manager and saying, Hey, you can't drop this like this has a feature in Canton. He just drops it up, but we don't want this distracting like if chance had been signed to a label, he wouldn't be able to do that, but because he was independent, he could do what he wants. Yeah, yes, that it just shows how weird big labels are. Like they do everything to make sure every single string goes to a certain songer artist. But my thoughts on live music, I can't I can't say I cannot work it. Nor clubs give good advice because I'm that I live music expert. I I don't think there will be as many online shows as people say, because they'll be really wants to go to it online show, even if it's what they have to do. Now all my shows are just kind of boring. I that's really the only in that I have on. I I saw read an art school. So I was searching how nightclubs are going to be effected and bars in the music scene and nightclubs, and they I think his name, this guy, was saying basically they're going to be have to like space it out. So only set in my people can go in to the events and then have to kind of spake, like kind of space out. I think they'll have to do it some something like that, and he allows to people. I think that might ruin in the Bible. You know a lot of people like going to clubs where they're packed in tie, everybody is most together. Yes, I think. I think if you make people space out, it won't be good. How many people will be interested in doing it. See's the kind of purpose of a lot of evental purpose isn't. Yeah, but there's is an interesting documentary on Netflix about music. It's got it's got Dr Drey and I'll find out what it's calling off under you, but it's it's about Dr Drey and him making the music and it's got like Eminem's in it and too much. Sorry about that, by my thought disct it. Yeah, it's really good documentary, not like really showcases like the insides about the music industry, especially the death dumb records on. How you know...

...all the insides that you don't really see. A lot of corruption. Yeah, define ones. That's define ones really, really good by Hydra. I like stuff like that because a lot of people don't know what big labels do and it is weird and there's still stuff people don't know about. I mean it was the universal or showing that they had charges for like human trafficking and selling drugs and stuff like that to keep, to keep for two reasons. To keep their artist happy, right, they given drugs. That's the only way to keeping with the label. And human trafficking is because so the agreements. Yeah, especially like the S to s. They were almost like the slave agreement you would have. You would have a show one day and then a show across the country in the next twenty hours, and it was so bad that it was considered human trafficking, like they were moving all literally so fat that they just had no control over their life. So I'm glad that's a little bit different now because people have been more aware about it. But yeah, just it's interesting stuff. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, like there's Elton John Movie that Outson John Movie, I think I've seen it, and his his manager was like like that, you know you going here, you doing this. That's the thing. You know, like especially the tensions must be high. People are on tour as well and they label saying you go and here, you doing this. But like, I think, I think you know, like what you're going into. I think it's really, really good, but you know you're going out into the world. It's something you're passionate about. You've got a friend who makes music. He's passionate about it, and I think like, you know, you continue on this road that you're on, you know big things are going to happen. Just don't you know, if people are being negative about it. Don't listen. Is just do what you your friends that you Adam know you wilcome there. You possibly appreciate that. Yeah. Is there anything else we need to cover? Yeah, I also say Germany books, that you want to read books, books. I'm reading two books right now. Actually these are very, very good books. This one deep work, focus, how looport. I don't know who they are, but it's about staying focused and it's really great. As helped me a lot. I haven't read too much of it, but it's really good. And then this one. I mean there's not a single person who doesn't recommend this book, how to win friends. It took for its people. Yeah, I to be honest, haven't found it as impressive it's other people say it is, but it definitely helped me. I'm just interactions and the other books that I like will for for any business. I think reading a book about law, it's helpful. You got to make contracts, you got to do all that stuff. Let me think, I have my bookshelf over there. I got to think about it. I've heard a lot of investing books. Yeah, street, that's a great movie. That's one of my fa the movies ever. I actually yeah, that's that's really cool. It's even crazy that most of that is true. Oh, yeah, that's anyway. Books. Yeah, I think these are my two main books. I like them a lot and it's it's always hard to think of stuff like that. We're on the spot. Yeah, it comes to me at one end today. Yeah, yeah, that's what I like that. If you could, you ever read Napoleon Hills thinking grow rich? Oh, I've heard that book a lot, I have not read it. Yeah, you need to read odd. Read thinking grow rich by the pulling hill. It was rich in a lot of the nineteen s or s and it talks about, you know, your mindset, your faults and how your faults become things, and that's quite a good book. Oh, I actually have I do have a few books these. These also happen to meet my three share books, ever, but they taught me a lot. There's one Jonathan Livington, seagull. It's you know that book. I've heard of pretty old time. Heard. Yeah, it's about it. It's about a Segul who like pushes himself to fly like a hundred miles an hour or something. It's...

...it's a very interesting and core key book. It's pretty short. That's one of my all time favorites. M It's a very unorthodox book but I love it. And then the way the people warrior very good for mindset and I aspire to be the peaceful warrior. That's that's a really good one. And the last one in my all time favorite book and something that actually taught me the most, is the Godfather. You may not think that the God father moved to film The book. All right, I haven't actually seen the film, but I've read the book right, the original book, and it is so good and it's more than just entertainment. It teaches you stuff. One of the main things I learned from that book is never make a move out of weakness. It's just like we were talking about earlier. Yeah, don't make a decisions unless you're where of your emotional state. Same exact thing, if you there are a few times where I have just been so burned out, thinking all I should just quit doing this music stuff. You know, why don't I just dissolve it all right now, I have the power to do that. But the Godfather, at the very end of the book, they plan on moving to Las Vegas. Right. They kind of moving Aten Las Vegas. They're kind of slowing down, but they don't want to make it seem like it's different treat so what they do is they kill every single other mafia boss, all the four other big ones, and then they move because they didn't. They wanted to make sure that they weren't making that move out of weakness. They wanted to make sure it was a move out of strength. Or don't pivot off your week foot, you know, regain your balance and pivot off a strong foot. That's something I think about a lot and other different job target and there are there are a few other miny lessons in there about how the Godfather runs his operation. But read the Godfather. I I agree with that. I thinks, like you said, if you're like you're tired or frustrated or you feel a certain way and you make certain decisions based on certain emotional states, you can probably regret it the next day. Or you know you're not your full self, with your not a good emotional state, you're going to make very good decisions in a negative emotional state. Always, always have clarity before you change anything. Yeah, I agree, but not like being fantastic talking to TJ and youtube. Thank you. I will appreciate it and I'm I'm happy. I'm the youngest guest. This is this is going out to spotify and stuff, right, you're yeah, yeah, all right, I'll just tell people my instagram them is at pro SC Prochet, and you can also check out my podcast. It's called triple them with bj Roche. Thank you bad I interview people from the Music Industry and my second episode will be dropping tomorrow. Nice. So thank you so much, Adam. Know you really appreciate keep out of keep doing it, and it's just being like consistent. I mean I've been doing it for since January. My my advice is just keep doing it, keep putting out, even if one a week, one a week to week, you know, like yeah, and I'll be happy to come on yours as well. Yeah, yeah, I actually, if it's okay with you, I I might have a segment of this just released online as well. Yeah, yeah, so good, perfect. Thank you so much, Adam. I'm all DAMN ANSWER.

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