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The Parrsitivity Podcast #Episode 93 Katy Barnfield @Carbonfibreart

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In this episode I'm reunited with Katy Barnfield, I did my first ever Podcast with her! Katy makes art using high grade carbon fibre, it is really specialised, handcrafted, authentic work! Check her out at @carbonfibreart on Instagram, and also check out her Podcast! 馃憠Carbonfibreartpodcast website: https://www.parkgallery.co.uk/collections/katy-barnfield --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/the-parrsitivity-podcast/message

Hither. My name is Adam Po and the podcast host posity to podcast. In this podcast, you will be listening to me connect with people from different walks of life, from the military to people in the music industry, to people in the self help industry and many other areas of life. In this podcast I'll be talking about topics from self help, mental health, motivation, spirituality, mindset, society, current affairs and much, much more. If you enjoy this podcast, please subscribe, share and let me know your feedback. And my main intention on this podcast is to have a positive impact for you, the lit the listener, to take something positive from it, to apply something positive into your life from this. Now with without further ado, let's go to podcast and enjoy. Hi, and welcome to the past is podcast. On today's episode I'm reunited with Katie Bondfield. Katie makes art using carbon fiber. It's a really, really interesting an amazing concepts and she really really does produce some great work using carbon fiber. Now sit back, relax and enjoy this episode. Hi, Katie, how you doing your right? Hey, yeah, you did good, it's good. Yeah, great, funk, you great. You gave me. Okay, yeah, that's close. Crystal just wind slightly so I can GAM me. Okay, yeah, Oh, good, awesome. Yeah, yeah, being being good. Funk you. It's been a bit crazy time past couple of months. Really. I would work and you know, of things that happened and I friend, but I've just kind of like, you know, got myself together and just privatized on, you know, a podcast and my coaching and different things, you know. So been really well. It's bit bizarre, considering our last kind of conversation was based around if I was in January, wasn't it? And we were talking about two thousand and twenty holds for us. Yeah, to you during the the yeah, yeah, yeah, it's M isn't it? Like? Yeah, I did did my first podcast of you, didn't I, back in January? Yeah, that's right, and I just kind of like went from there. I didn't really take it to sit or take to serious, but I didn't really think, you know, much would happen with it. Really surprisingly, and it's kind of just taken off. So that's pretty news. Yeah, no, thank you and you know, I really appreciate you do it, you know, being the first one to do it with you know. So kind of gave me that, but I had to stop. Oh, Jeff, I'm really glad it's going well. HMM. This is how you enjoying it? Is it something you kind of really have gotten into? Yeah, yeah, no, I think it's some for that I really kind of like found to enjoy, you know, and some of the I'm passionate about as well. I I connect them with people. I like talking to people and hearing, you know, people's stories and what they've got to share. You know what they're passionate about, and there's so many avenues you can go with it. Yeah, I think it's great. It's so it's weirdly a very kind of new age way of doing what we would have ten years ago anyway. Yeah, as it isn't it? Yeah, passing on experiences and stories and that kind of community. We just have this community in a very different way nowadays. Yeah, we're quite luck to...

...have that actually kind of taught to people anywhere. Yeah, I think it's amazing. Is it's the technology in old is actually quite simple, but there the way it helps and produces so many opportunities for people is fantastic. HMM. Yeah, I know. Definitely opens up loss of doors and opportunities. Doesn't it? It's a hundred percent pretty incredible. But like, how have you been for out this time, seeing that you've been absolutely smashing out of the park with Your Business and your carbon fiber? It's amazing. It's not books say again, sorry. After all, the one of your mugs literally just doesn't know. Yeah, yeah, it's not really. It's not been that different for me because obviously me and Dad I've got a unit and it's on a farm, so there's like no one around anyway. Yeah, so, I mean he works one side of the the unit, I work the other side, ha ha ha. It's all been fairly, fairly normal. Obviously the kids, my daughter a home schooled anyway, but Fred's been off school. But that's just been really nice and kind of I mean we've the school has been brilliant. They've been sending over stuff on the website and by email and but it's been great because you can kind of explore what he's really into. So I found it quite nice and quite easy to kind of get him into things that he wants to do and about. Yeah, N S it isn't it? And it's more kind of, I suppose, concentrated then it was before. You know that probably little bit more like you can have that, have that time and see what he's interested in the things. Yeah, definitely, it's been, like I just see it as a just been amazing opportunity to spend time with him and get to know what he likes and kind of teaching things that that you know personally, I feel that are important that maybe school doesn't cover. HMM. So, yeah, that's that's been fun really. But yeah, yeah, boys, it's been great really. There's everyone seems to be far more active on social media, so that's been great to everybody. Anyway. Thank you for me busy. Yeah, I'll oh, I did some charity paintings for the Campton court hospice, which is my local to where I am, and manageries around six hundred pounds for the charity. But it was a lost playing and they were doing pep por traits and yeah, so I think we all ready to do about six grandy Cheez while. Yeah, yeah, that's there's some amazing pictures that they've all done as well. They're they're incredible. But yeah, I think they were charging around twenty five pounds for like your personal pet portrait. You get a picture sent over to you and you draw it and then pop it in the post to them and and then that was it. Wow, yeah, let's see some of those photos on your instagram of the the dogs. Yeah, instagram has been awesome. Everybody on Instagram and getting them done and stuff and supporting the charity. It was was so brilliant. They did really well and obviously I wouldn't have been able to raise that amount of money without them. So yeah, huge, huge thanks for them. Yeah, instagrams are great platforms. They're like for people coming as a gather and social connectivity and be were helping in one another. Yeah, definitely. I found personally, I really like instagram because it because of the way it works. There's a like a group of people on there that are into the same kind of thing that you're into. So, HMM, it's really nice to have that kind of little community, especially at the moment where it we've will been kind of stuck inside. Been Really Nice to have that. It's almost support really, if if you're looking at it like that. Yeah, now I agree. Like, I've met some people from instagram who, you know, being a podcast a, a lot of people I've connected with other being on Linkedin or instagram and, you know, just engaging in comments and threads and just asking people and you know, it's really nice. You know it's you don't always get responses, but you know when you do it it's nice and people just jene genuinely...

...want to genuinely want to help. I think they do. Yeah, I think it's really just a lovely way to be able to be in a position where, if you don't know something for you'd like some advice on some think you you have this community that you can kind of say, Hey, I'm kind of struggling with this or I don't know about this, can someone help? And there's there seems to always be somebody that's got like a good idea or an example or like that. Recently, because I've been teaching my son about racism and I didn't know where to start with that, especially for his age, because he's ten as well. So I didn't yeah, I honestly really didn't have a clue where to start from and then just pop something on social media and got an amazing response and loads of really good feedback and examples of what would be good for his age and stuff. That was really helpful. Yeah, notice, people just want to give advice and, you know, help one another done, and I think, like said, on that particular topic as well. I mean it's it's not most it's not the most simple topic. You know that there's so many strands and areas to and so much history yet you know, link to race some as well. It really, it really is huge and knowing where to start can be really difficult. So having someone you know that has been through it before or has some experience in it is really helpful. Yeah, Nice, exactly, and I mean that's, you know, something racism. It's like something that stems for, you know, an old place, all places around the world of you know, people from a different places and parts of experienced racism. Haven't that me? Yeah, it's so many different ways as well. So it's a there's everyone will have a story to tell. It is really worth talking to people as well. There's just kind of reading and trying. Yeah, also, finding facts is difficult. It's a there's, there's a almost like a set of information that's kind of pretty packed and ready for you, and then there's information that's a little more real. Yeah, gating what's been kind of sugarcoated and what hasn't been sugarcoated. It can be quite difficult as well, especially if you're entering it from from completely brand new. Yeah, it there's definitely worth poking people for pointers. HMM. Yeah, no, suckly and I watched you a really good podcast, Joe Rogan. You know the Jooken podcast. You mentioned it before death. Yeah, he yeah, he did a really great podcast with this musician called Dwell Davis, and this is a African American guy and he's a musician, but he's also written a few books on the Klu Klux Klan, hmm. And and he's basically helped convert Klu Klux Klan members to lie leave in the Klu Klux Klan. And he's quite interesting to watch because he talks by his personal experience of racism and how he kind of talked these clans members and they, after through them talking with this guy, they kind of like reflected and then ended up at you know, leaving the clan and easing it. That's purely through education. He's literally they just had no education in it at all. Yeah. Well, he goes into it like very deeply and he was saying that he spoke to some clans members and they were saying things to him like you know that apparently black people are more aggressive than why people are? They all have got this kind of thing within them with their serial killer. And this is what this guy said to like and and he said, well, okay, and he was a bit speechless. He said he was driving this car, and then he said this guy, try and name one black serial killer, and he threw it back to him and this guy couldn't think of anything, and then he said, well, apparently you know why people have got this serial killer, Jean, and then any and he was like naming all these different serial colors, and he's a lot. Is a lock there or white and there's guy had nothing to say and he said following that conversation he left the club because he he'd,...

...yeah, put two and two to cover. And but yeah, I mean that's that's one example of racism, isn't that? Yeah, I mean that, like, yeah, extreme as well, and I think it filters down so much into quite you know, from extreme to not so extreme. But sometimes the less extreme are so constant and such a part of society today that they go completely unnoticed. Hmmm. Yeah, I was watching, like there's a there's a youtube channel and I think they're on instagram. On facebook they're called kids of color and they're a great organization. But on Youtube they have kind of two three minute videos of lots of young people kind of talking about their experience with racism, which she's great because you get it from a young perspective. I think. I think that's so, such a nice thing to kind of listen to a young person's perspective because it's the world that they are growing up in and all the subject matter isn't but, you know, isn't very nice. They're doing an amazing thing, but listening to them some of the stories, it's it's things like a young girl, think she was about fifteen. She had Baluye lessons and dance lessons and things and she was finding it so difficult to find bally shoes that, you know they're supposed to kind of blending with your skin tone and of course they're not there. They're all peach colored. Yeah, they say it's I think even that she's in a classroom with a lot of other people and she's wearing body shoes that don't match your skin tone and she feels like she's standing out and it's not going to feel comfortable. Is it? For her? It's just and for a young person to experience that and then kind of being a situation where they're not sure if they should say anything. If they did say anything, would anybody listen to them? Would it be just palmed off as something that's a little bit silly? And that's the kind of things they go through. And as a young person that's that's really difficult. And if you grow up with a little things like that that happen constantly, that's going to make for a very kind of walted idea of life, isn't it? It's if that's the way it is the whole you know, through your entire life, that's got not going to make you a very happy person. Yeah, no, I n graph and, like I said, those usually developmental years as well. You know you're going to be you know, your kind of structuring, like, you know, your belief system on. You taken in what's happening. And, yeah, you're learning. If that's not the kind of thing you want to learn. Is it there that the world isn't really has for yeah, it's not. It's yeah, it's very kind of one sided. HMM. You know, people want to feel like they belong, don't I mean I know that. Yeah, it's that's such a normal feeling and it's a shame that it's only there for a small majority of this. HMMMM, I think. I think it's definitely kind of brought it's almost like, you know, like things of like like what we're talking about. It's kind of been going on in society, in the world so long and it's almost like we've been blind to it. Almost not blind to it, but I think, yeah, I think literally, like I think a lot of people will go through life without even seeing anything like that, just just completely oblivious. But based up to us, isn't it really to educate ourselves? And Yeah, we're both adults. We need, we should be able to educate ourselves. I've got children, it's and they're off school at the moments, so I've got no excuse. Can't even blame the education system for so. So yeah, I mean this is a brilliant opportunity. I think the kids are off for about four weeks that well, and and then they would be in there. They're kind of summer holi days anyway. So this is an amazing opportunity to keep teach kids about racis HMM. Yeah, I agree, and it kind of let you know. I think it's important. I think it's something that should be taught kids and, you know, brought into awareness as well. No, I definitely, I think. I think so. I think if you learn kind of mindfulness from a very young age, then you will you...

...will carry that with you and you're in that and this is kind of growing up. It's about making opportunities equal for everybody. HMM, there's no so that they're. I think with mindfulness you could get rid of social bias. Yeah, not exactly. Kind of makes people more you know, understanding, doesn't definitely. Yeah, like I saw as well that with your work, you did a peaceful and beginning. Yes, I did that a while ago actually, right, brother. Yeah, I've done it. It's the dealers in Edinburgh, I think, right, literally the only Lamborghini dealers up there as well. So yeah, pretty sure to have done that one. Yeah, it's it was a big run as well. It was huge. How about take? Not Very Long, because the logo is actually quite simple. HMM. The actual the actual painting doesn't take that long at all. All the colors dry separately as normal. So you just basically, I just try and work out roughly how many colors each picture has and then it all. Then it gives me an idea of how long it's going to take. But I think that one took about two days today from literally from the whole process. Wow. So, yeah, they do the Lamborghini kind of style. Doesn't take too long. So how did they how did you get in content? They get Gott? How were you like? And they, one of their guys, got in contact with me and we were originally, I think they wanted something with Mr Lamborghinis space in it, so I did, but kind of hidden as well. So I did a smaller version. It was kind of slightly say, the face was slightly Matt so when you moved it you could see it but you couldn't see it head on. But they just chose absolutely massive logo stay really the original when I did in gold. So it is kind of glittery, more metallic looking. God, that's awesome. I must supposed been amazing to go to the garage and give it to them and it isn't. Yeah, I didn't really meet anybody because I send it all off in oh I see it out, but yeah, I should. I should drive that to place it shouldn't. I and it's quite follow isn't it? From Chattenham? Yeah, it's going, but yeah, yeah, but yeah, it should go and meet people. Really, but that's mazing. Not The moment for yeah, yeah, that's amazing that. I mean to you know, to have to have that in a show room and you know, people are people go and then who made that? Yeah, it's so. Do you know? I don't think about it so often, but it's only too when you see a photo or something like that, you think, I already got it's so, but yeah, you don't. It's not kind of really on my mind. It's HMM. Yeah, weird to think about really. I think it was like, you know, when you're doing it, you're kind of like a machine on you you're just, you know, putting out, putting our work and cont and what you're doing it. Yeah, I'm so focused on like timing Z and what colors next and how it's going to look come it's going to dry, what color it is going to dry and all these things. So when I'm actually doing literally not thinking about anything else other than the painting itself, or when it's got a love. Yeah, yeah, this is it's like that. I've noticed I with the podcast little bit like when I beginning this lockdown. I just kind of got into it, you know, just cracked on with it and almost I was just so focused on just, you know, getting it done, doing it, doing it, doing, and I think someone asked me lie, you know, don't you? Don't you feel like you know good about doing it? And I'm like, Oh, yeah, I'm not to think about us all. Yeah, it's quite good one doing. Yeah, but like when you're in that zone of just working and doing it, I think you just channel into something down you use. You need to reminder sometimes to enjoy it. You know who he is. Sometimes you just need to be poked like don't forget to enjoy what you like doing. Yeah, that's easier to do when it's a bit more relaxes and it. They say, HMM,...

...yeah, I think as well. If with what you do and why doing, you know, people you doing any line of work and what it's creating creative it start start, pro says, isn't it's it's enjoying that process. I think that's some for that I've learned through, you know, what Guy v Said and then doing the these podcasts, is that you know, I just be so focused on the end goal and the finish line, whereas now I'm more finging on the process and being patient. And you must have that to be like what you do. Very much. But I don't think I realized that until I started listening to a lot of Garry v's podcasts and staff he I think sometimes when you finish your product you get like you get kind of like, oh, yeah, it's done, and some time I feel like I left was left like slightly unsatisfied, weirdly, HMM, and it wasn't Ntil I watched his stuff. I've suddenly realized, Oh, it's not even the finished product that I thought I kind of do it for, it's the whole process. Yeah, I just had never thought about it in those terms before. It's like the entire process. It's like quite literally going from talking to somebody about what they want to have done and then trying to figure out the bits of the conversation they are important to them and how I'd work back into a painting, and that is fun, and then working it all out and then actually doing the whole process of actually painting and then then putting in the frame and packing it all up and then finding out where they received it and what they think and like the whole thing like without I guess doing it without one of those parts wouldn't be as much fun. Yeah, that's it, isn't it? And I'm a be saying, like when I first of the podcast with you, that you know, you meet so many different people and everyone's different and that's, you know, an exciting part of it, because no person the same. That art work that you do is some bubble window, is it? Yeah, so each person different and you know it's very personal to them because you're creating something that that person might like or something that's happened in their life and it could kind of like be like a resemblance of that. Oh yeah, definitely. I don't think the majority of the paintings would be what they are without the other person behind them. I mean like I paint, yeah, but without, without that other person involved, I don't think they'd be what they're supposed to be, if that makes sense. That, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, is definitely is like a it like a fifty partnership. I think without without all the information your client gives you, you just you wouldn't get there. So Hmm, and it's like they're take on it what they want and probably, like you know, your take on it as well, on your style. So it's that kind of probably fifty balance. Yeah, I know, like I never ever get, will ever get used to the fact that's and some people are so trustworthy within just kind of asking me to do something and then just waiting for it. And if you know what you're doing, you can you do this for me, and every time it feels like such an honor to be kind of given that that trust, I guess. Yeah, to be kind of do what they want is lovely and it's that. I mean that's really rewarding. I love that. HMM. Yeah, that true side, isn't it? Like, you know, the point in there trusting you to do something. That's your time that goes into it to make that thing, isn't it? It's that kind of part of relationship. Yeah, and it's awesome, like I am I really do enjoy it. HMM. No, and it's like, you know, reflected from what you do as well. You work isn't and that's why it's so important to do what you enjoy, because it will show in your work. Going to definitely I can't remember who I was having a conversation with, but we were saying about doing work and watching artists do work and then for some like there's always one that you like. You personally don't like you're doing it. It ishing like no, don't like it, so I tend to do it again.

I've post of Scrub Yeah, a couple of times on their quite big paintings, but I just you know, when you just it really isn't good. Yeah, I just started all over again. But but artists will go through stuff like that and sometimes you can see in artists you have a look at like you can pick someone quite famous or not famous, but you have a look at all their work and you can spot the one that they weren't interested in doing. Yeah, that's different to the rest of them. Yeah, we're all like that. There's there's no one in the world that can get away from doing something they really don't like doing. But yeah, yeah, that's the thing, isn't that? Like the energy that goes into it, and I think sometimes we can kind of like strive for perfection almost calm sometimes. Yeah, so I think if you're creative person, that's like in the jeans, isn't it? Yeah, just like no, we don't like it. It's a HMM. Yeah, I've got edited pictures before and spend ages doing it and then I'll look and go they're like that, like saying our delete and I spend half an hour doing it and then I do it again. Yeah, it's funny, isn't it? kind of own perception of what is good or bad or or adequate is it's our own and for some kind of same perception they'd literally have to grow up exactly the same way we did. Say, yeah, of our own things, of probably the the worst perception or the most wrong. Yeah, I think. Well, I think we can be kind of naturally critical of ourselves long what we do sometimes. Yeah, definitely. I think we expected that, don't we? I think we're aware of what we're capable of and if it doesn't meet that standard every time, then we can be quite critical. Yeah, I think it's that balance, isn't it really? Yeah, I mean kind of focusing on points, pointers and what you expect from certain jobs is a good one, and then, instead of being overly critical, just figure out whether they meet the those points. Yeah, yeah, that's as at age. Those kind of like there's points and marks of it. Yeah, it's like, if you are if you are someone that's particularly critical, having some kind of system to work around that will help a lot. HMM. Yeah, thats ex other kind of gives you a bit more clarity. Confidence helps as well. I think if just doing it over and over again and not throwing away the bad ones, just keep them and keep doing it over and over again, I'm showing other people, seeing what they think, because a lot of the time we do something and if we deemed it terrible, we don't show anyone. So, yeah, intrigue the one as it's bad. Yeah, I listen to I was watching that ses who does wins program and there was that guy, rudimental, okay, but the Black Guy, and he was that, I think, one of their hit songs come old. It's called something about love, I think it is, and he said didn't really think it was good at the time. It was left on the hard drive of the computer for like two years and when they released it was like their biggest bye hit single. Yeah, so, I mean, you know, it just shows doesn't allow we what we might think is bad, you know, but people might think is good. So it's, like I said, it's always helpful to see the people's opinions and what they thing to it, because I think our own opinions and going to be the same as what the world things. Yeah, I do. You know, I can remember my brother telling me, and this was years and years ago, I was fairly young, I must have been a teenager, and he said to me there are always going to be people that don't like whatever is that you do. I was like...

...okay, yeah, and he said look at Metallica, huge band been going for the three years, made crazy really popular. There's littons of people that don't like that. Yeah, yeah, you go and have a look between genres. Then then there are people that, you know, absolutely hate rap and there's people that absolutely hate metal. So but still there are bands that have done incredibly well in both. So equally is nameless. So yeah, you've you got to go with what you love, isn't it? Like if you're doing something, you should just do it because you know makes you happy doing it and not to give your attention to those who might be negative or critical about it. Like yeah, I think that's if you're truly happy doing what you're doing. That's much easier today just to like negative and stuff and focus on positive yeah, that's so. I mean I found some fly I experience when I was you know, I know we all have to work and things, but I mean when I was working another jobs, parking restaurants or hotel, was like, you know, I did enjoy it, but there were times where in the back of my mind I feel I feel like crap because I'm like my energy, I know my energy deep down needs to go in a different direction. If you live that makes sense that I was almost wasting my time, but at that time I didn't know where my time and energy needed to go. So, I mean, you know, when you don't know what it is that you want to do, someone doesn't know what they want to do, you you kind of battling with yourself because you are doing this thing right now, but it's not what I want to do, you know, I'm my time needs to go somewhere else. Yeah, we ignore it for quite a long time. I think the way that we are educated in, the system that are educated in, we kind of kind of educated to find something to do that you get paid for straight away. There's no there's nothing to teach you to explol, there's nothing to teach you by different things. There's no one's really saying have a go at this. If you don't like it, you can quit. Yeah, it's like you're doing the surfing. You need to go. This was all Xyza was. I think I spoke to somebody and they said that, you know, needs to be kind of flipped on the reverse, like it needs to be perspective of it. He's turned around. Like, you know, if you look at from from when you're older and then, what have you done? And we are, you know, to mean kind of yeah, it kind of if you kind of look at your own history from where you are now, backwards and kind of seeble how did you get where you are now? What are you doing? You'll probably find more majority of people will find that they either experimented, that it didn't go to plan. There was no kind of straightforward plan that your entire life followed without any hiccup or orde, because Nice just not like that. We think it's going to be like doing in school, that your life will be. You go to school, you possibly go to six for more college or learn where you get a job straight away, you in money university and that's really what you're taught. And actually life is nothing like that at all. You have to be able to see the opportunities that are in front of you and experiment and take what feels like a leap of faith. Sometimes, sometimes it's really not. Only the faith is just something different. Yeah, well, you know you're going to be pushed out your converzone on you, and I think you know that's what we don't like doing. Sometimes it's going to our comper zone or into the unknown, but sometimes that's probably the best thing that can happen sometimes. Yeah, I think it is. I think it really is. I'll come a zone, as we'd again, it's one of those things that's been taught from day fern. It's like we're really good at being told what today and doing it. Yeah, yeah, it's very, really to going to kick kids out of school about sixteen and just be like, we'll find out what you want to do. Yeah, you go now, you choose. Yeah, think the hell do I do now? Yeah, I mean, yes, a lot of pressure, isn't it's a lot pressure me, even more so now. I saw a picture on instagram and it was like a guy at a desk and,...

I think about it, said school education Asian system and he was reading off this piece of papers these animals and there's like an elephant, a Giraffe, a monkey, a tiger and like a frog or something, and he said to the now climb that tree awesomething like that. So it was like, you know, teaching the same thing to all these different species that are going to be able to do it or, you know, not understand. Yeah, it's like one side fits all. HMM. I just is there any books that you read at all, any favorite books that you have? I don't read, so I suppose I don't read many books. I am really slow at reading. Hence my prefer podcast with it. Yeah, audio books or anything, they are listened to way more audio books. I'm still not massively into that. And podcast. I listened to, I think the one book I did read. Is it good? It's good. It's okay, common, a great big blue book with Gold Balloons on it. Good, and it's called I think it's called happy. Don't quite. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. The but this book that Heather, yeah, and it's that's very much about your perception of life. It's like it sounds like a self help book, doesn't it? But it's not really like that. He kind of he kind of has a go self up books all the way through it. But that's got, yeah, a lot to do with religion and there's a great, big, massive bit at the end of it that's about death. But then, yeah, it's really about personal perception and how you think about things, how your brain got his information and how it processes it. Not Interesting. Good read, really, really good read. It just takes me forever to read books. So I think I don't very often get one because it will be there for years. Yeah, I suppose that. You know, you've got a family, your busy, your work as well, so it's like if you if you get that time to your soul, and you can probably do it, isn't it? It's you go that time and space to through it. That's why audio books and podcasts quite a good because you can do what you're doing as well as you know listening to some of those, they are brilliant. Also, like I said, I'm just I'm a very slow reader physically, like literally been there reading it. My daughter can get three pages in like just so I'm on the same page. She's like chapter one, s bached. I wasn't reading last now it's thanks important to learn things I wasn't listening to podcast and to read things or to learn something. That's another reason why I find podcast so much better, is because I can take in the information. Then I'm listening to it. When I'm reading it, I'm reading the words. So I often have to go over it to take in the information orfull you they like, for it to form a sentence that I can understand. Kept losing. Well, I was in the box. The guy could talking really fast in the audiobook and I was like our, how of it? I can't. You knows as yeah, I saw a one or the other. Yeah, I much prefer just audio or podcasts. That fits. It's for the way my brain works. It definitely is much easier for me to kind of gather the information and put it in the pipe place. Yeah, we have you. Have you got any more projects, new projects on the way that you're working on the minute with? Yeah, I've got a couple of thing. I can't try to think of something I can actually talk. Sorry. Do you like when I do commissions? I try and keep most of it as right and not, I think, just for the clients and stuff. But I've got yeah, one that's not a car or a helmet. So that'll be fun. Always like...

...me. Yeah, I have just finished it like a great big I think it's for me to fifty dumb by fifty. So you'd like wait along, Carm as? Yeah, of course, of course that F on instagram scene. But I am I am just waiting for feedback. Yeah, but you're some some great, some great post on your sugarm'm really amazing. Like I saw that you didn't like you did a helmet one was it? Was it? WHO's IT for? It was? Did you did a helmet recently? I was at the Lundon. I think it is one of your recent ones, like Clarency, and that's still one. Yeah, I am I did. That was another one I did last year. But because of lockdown and stuff, they've obviously, like all the guys have been on Youtube and they've been doing loads of like kind of filming from home. And Yeah, they London. Norris was on an episode Youtube Crib. Yeah, and they're painting. What it? Yeah, yeah, acously had it. That's awesome. Yeah, and then and then after that I kind of was having a look through the McLaren website and there's a picture of him stood next to the painting on the McLaren booter hey is was like, oh my God, that's awesome. Yeah, it was over the moon. Yeah, it was. It was pretty cool. I got it was really early in the morning. I found it as I think it is really okay. That's crazy. Amazing cars are on the mclowns are saw on today like just crafted so well. Some of these cars was crazy, like yeah, the design on them is it like incredible. It's it's the lines and there just everything about them is. It's perfect, isn't it really? It's like they're almost perfect. Yeah, the IE young for that I mentioned previously on I first made you I wanted the podcast start. I told you I worked for David Richards use high or pen F one. He owns. He owns pro drive. You know the company pro drive? Yeah, you know, makes to Su Brews, and he was chief. It was like what I think is like the head, head chairman, or it was high up anyway, common machine. Somebody bad now it was. Yeah, he was high up. Grasston Martin no way, but he had all his a fone people of contacts would come to the hotel, which is pretty cool. That's weird, isn't it? I remember going to I went to goodwood best of speed and I stayed at yeah, BNB. Hello, well, I see. Yeah, I stayed at BYMB and the The lady that the host, she had been going for years and there she's. She's met loads of races and F when teams and she said me, knows the stories about I will be. Yeah, yeah, they come down and like you know, like have parties and things like that. But I I remember in the hotel I worked out that this this guy owned, God it was, contacts down and there's watching like the fone and the cinema. You've got their own cinema and the hotel and I remember those all watching, like the F one and the formally he he is watching that and I I was bringing in their teas and coffees and their food and it was pitch black so I couldn't see anything and I was just so anxious because I was like these are like high, high up important people in the F one world and I'm I'm walking in like cups of tea, can't see where I'm walking. I'll just thinking, you know, if I fall over and get it on them. But yeah, like you know, people in that industry...

...and the only people on it. At the end of the day, you know, the like majority of them and lovely. They're like the majority of people are life, but it's I think it's just the odd ones that give it bad names and stuff. Everyone I've met so far as really nice. I don't even know. I'm just happy. Yeah, I do. You drive a favorite car, like brand or favorite car? Atal? Oh my God, can I even say like a car? That a car that you okay, that I wanted for for forever. I think probably I was about sixteen when I first saw Ann Marty. MM. Always wanted an EMU team lot. Who I say? Master, right, Tota. Sorry, yeah, it is a love it. I don't know why. Yeah, there are some Nice cars out there, like I've got. I've not quite out the look of Tesla's, to be honest, and they they are really popular, really really popular at the moment. I haven't done one on Garbie. HMM. There's still time. Yeah, there is that time. Any tested? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's super poppy. The like major, Major as in Korea. Yeah, you can't even hear them, master, scary thing, like I'mber driving on the dual carriageway. Once I looked my mirror and like this car flying behind me. I got out of the way. It just went. It was a tessa. Well, yeah, they are. They are just crazy. But I like old school cars. You're not. Old School cars are a lot probable, mechanical, you know, make noise and the you know they're being crafted, like it's old school porshes or his old school for when's it feel like you're driving? Yes, that's what I'm going to say, but you okay, for time during you? Oh good, yeah, I'm trying to say. What time is it? For Seventeen? Yeah, yeah, we got out like not long before. Yeah, that's cool. My next you, if you like, learn any new skill since, like down or, you know, enjoy or found and enjoy anything now, like cooking or cooking. o F there. Busy, busy ever. been kind of doing a bit more drawing on the IPAD I got. Oh, I always call this the wrong thing. It's an APP on the IPART. You can com paint and it. No, it's not a high shore. I always call it. Call it what I always called it proplus. That sounds like a vitamint is. It's not propless, like it's good. Now procreate. Yeah, yeah, it's cool. It's a drawing APP. It's really good, but it will convert your drawings into different files, which is great if you want to print them. So That's how I've been able to do the drawings for the t shirts and stuff and the coloring pages that I did. They were pin it. That's awesome that you can do that on your ipad and then convert and then distributed onto the things. Yeah, pure, purely down to like two things. The the the APP is really good. I mean, I didn't even know existed and then I think I was watching something on Youtube and well, I god, that's amazing and had a go at it and it was quite easy to get the hang off, because I've had drawing APPs on HMM, yes, I I just couldn't get on with them. They seem quite just overcomplicated and I like, if I'm going to draw, I just like to draw.

I don't really want to be messing around with all the weird things it does. Was your yeah, where is this APP? It will just let you draw. It's like it's quite literally like picking a pencil up and just drawing with it. Wow, which is nice. And then the other thing is the print on demand, which has been perfect, which, you know, I don't have to order hundreds of the products that setting. I can quite literally drop my image onto their file and it will create a product which I can then assigned to my cryst or once someone's ordered it, it will then let the printing company though and then they're print that product and shift out to direct to the cars. Wait. It's brilliant. I mean the profit margin. Obviously, if you buy a hundred and and and then sell them yourself and package them there, obviously your profit margin is a lot higher, whereas print on demands quite expensive to do. But I don't really mind because it wasn't really for making loads of thads of money. Yeah, generally to keep me busy in the evening. Yeah, something something passionate about. So it's not the main, you know, reason behind is it? You Know Me, you know put the money. It's not. You know, I am I kind of I do think a lot about my social media and stuff and the idea is that it's really for the people that are following. Yeah, that's where that's where I think people get a mixed up. They kind of doing it for themselves. They're not thinking about the audience and or, you know, that. Yeah, I find that that, to me, is really weird. I mean, the only reason that there's there's a following it there is because people are either being entertained or they like to see your support and stuff, and the people that have in my community there have been so supportive, especially during lockdown and stuff. It's they're incredible. So I'm always thinking, you know what, what would be beneficial to them? What would they want to see? And obviously I haven't been in the unit as much because I'm off with the kids, though I needed to find something, yeah, that do at home, that they could still be entertaining. Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, that fit really well. It kind of, and then there was something that they could engage with as also, because I do find that a lot of what I do because of carbon and it's so expensive to actually buy that. Then the retail price of the the paintings are quite high as well. So I do feel like what I do could do with an area where it wasn't so expensive. Yeah, it's it's given back, isn't it? Providing value to the people and kind of, you know, having accessible to people that one a bit to afford these high end products, isn't I think still. Well, yeah, but that's why, I mean they just did literally, like I would like for it to be accessible to everybody in some way. So, yeah, trying to figure that one out difficult because with the smaller pieces and doing some of them are digital there because, well, yeah, because it's your time, it isn't it? Sure craftsmanship and it's the like sort of carbon fibers acts expensive anyway as well. Yeah, it's great to pick the most expensive carbon favor. Yeah, canvas or whatever you'd like to call it, to work. Yeah, some time think byself. You could have just, you know, couldn't have picked anything more. Expect I mean literally don't get anything more expensive. would be sheep gold cheese because, yeah, I mean it's very it's very light. Isn't it break really easily, is it? Does it break easy? No carbons, like super flexible. It's basically the lightest, strongest flexible material that...

...you can get. You the reason like if you crash, you're you kind of got in your head like formula ones crashing. Yeah, lying everywhere. Yeah, in and to certain extent it's flexible. But the idea that they've got it into it anything that would be on a car and smashing at that speed would just be annihilated. There's not really anything you can do about that. There's no routie. Yeah, it's come out of apart from steel, and they'll still call yeah if did. But yeah, actually the reason it's used in Formula One is because it's so flexible and light from but yeah, allows, you know, allows movement, which is really important. But yeah, it's really strong. Also, the garden fivre itself is within like a resin like casing technically. So that's it. Another thing that kind of reinforces it, like, for the resince, the paintings, like they're almost indestructible unless you kind of get something and literally gouge out a massive Yatch in it. Most of the scratches you can bluff out. You get like tiny little scratches. They don't have last in them. They were my frame. I don't put last. Is quite heavy and if it does smash in the post it will scratch there. Yeah, so it's quite it's quite. The boss of it in lot is, you know, probably long lasting as well. Oh, yeah, it's super on lasting. I did years ago I put something on Reddit, the picture on Reddy, and someone had a go at me about the fact that it was like there's no UV protection, so it's just going to fade. But like any other artwork, hasn't got you. Yeah, it's gonna last like double your length of time. Any of you are there are yeah, it's gonna gonna last. I actually don't know how long it's going to last for or how brilliant the color is going to be in I mean, I no one would suggest believing it in so night because Sun will eventually fade. Everything Bain't it. But the technology behind the composites in industry at the moment is incredible, and there there was stuff. There's I have a wax and Polish formula at the unit that's specifically designed for carbon fiber and it's got that's got a UV protection in it as well. So everything that's sent out has a wax on it and you just kind of extra lad. Yeah, but yeah, you can. You can literally wipe them down with a cloth. There's absolutely no way that you'll do any damage to it. That's awesome, Narmi, and you sell them overseas as well. Yeah, yeah, I had a few. Actually this year I've had a few American ones. That's awesome. Trying to think. So, Oh, Kindada, and I think that's I'm missing someone now I'm get and that's why that's fine. So it's the one, but not, I think. I think you do like in you know, amazing job and all that you're doing. You know, and I think it's very inspiring. I think it's really motivating and I think you know you're you're doing something you're passionate about, something you love and enjoy, and I think that's what's what it's all about, isn't it's fine in your thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, like if, if anybody else is the struggling with anything, just literally do what you love. Life is so much yeah, yeah, sir, it's so much easier to cope with when you're actually do you enjoy? Yeah, no, SA, definitely a B it's kind of like writ like round up, like fuck. I don't know if I ask you the first time I of the PODCAST, but who who'd say that your role modelers or role models? Would you say? I didn't know. That's it. Not Mean it can be personal family friends. I mean it's different, viosly every single person. Yeah, I mean my dad's obviously, like I'm sure everybody.

Yeah, my dad's. Yeah, my dad's like a huge role model for me. I'm basic of my brothers that they are all done that especially. I mean he always had time for us as kids. He quite literally, like I used to annoy him with that. I just used to follow him around being like what kind can I and yeah, yeah, like my fun thing was to like go Polish MOMS with dive in the shed or like clean bits of it's. I left doing stuff like that. They I'd you know, I really enjoyed it, but he always like you never told me to get last or anything. You always add something for me today. So, yeah, and he's worth, you know, the same job from money's about a team. I think constantly. He just we work so hard all the time and obviously he was, you know, the inspiration behind all of yeah, really nothing, you're yeah. And then both of my brothers, who eat, you know, each bearing ways, have gone through some and I'd like really well saying yeah, definitely, definitely, family, I think is probably more important to me than kind of having more celebrity type. Yeah, no, that's a that's really good point, isn't and I think you know, people sometimes see Chrissy curl models or mentors who are like, you know, the limelight and you know, lemb The whold other people. You probably goes as to us, and I think you're a sports and later with your dad, you know, and growing up and you know, people giving you that time and, you know, supporting you and I think you know, so important, isn't it? I think you know that's off to you that for working hard and you know, your your brothers for being strong and certain times and Youre doing well and it kind of build you and make sure you want to do better and be better, doesn't it, when you surrounded by people by that? Oh yeah, definitely. I mean I think as well they're both genuinely just really good people and I can always remember my dad talking about his mum and and the fact that she was just, you know, everyone thought she was just a lovely person, and that's always stuck in my head as well. Then this person that I'd never met. I think I met her when I was very, very young, but I can remember and she yeah, the you know, everybody remembers this person as being such a lovely, warm person and that's always stuck in my head. But I like that idea and like the idea of thinking and having a role model. That's just a lovely person. I think. Possibly why I don't have role models, they are either famous, is that I just don't know them or don't know about them. Yeah, so it isn't it? It's, you know, specially said by you know, being kind and being a nice person and, you know, knowing about somebody in their story. I think helps, doesn't it? Definitely? Yeah, and, like I am generally always inspired by by other people's stories. When she kind of hear about somebody or what they've done and there's, you know, something about them, there is generally something quite inspiring about yeah, I agree. I think. You know, like said, they one's got their own story and their own there in journey in life. I haven't know. Definitely, yeah, if you have you know it, take the opportunity or time to actually speak to somebody or doing something or there's always something to learn. Yeah, no, I definitely agree. Definitely agree, but but not K Katie's beak. It's being absolute pleasure and really really, you know, greatful for your time and really enjoyed, you know, touching base you and talking to you again. I think if you're doing great and knowing you're doing as well. Really, you know, really means a lot. Thank you. Know, like I wanted to be asked again, and it's it's been quite nice to go from from the...

...beginning of the year into it to the middle. I can yeah, yeah, this guy is quite nice to have that kind always six. Yeah, Nice. So you can kind of reflect, can't you, and see what you've done, and I from yeah, listens to January and be like, Oh, we're gonna be at this best. Yeah, we've actually yeah, yeah, but right, hopefully then we do it again. Yeah, of course. Yeah, what one's yeah, Christmas Thomas on them. Yeah, yeah, see how different this the next six Oh, I really hope it's. Yeah, another another lockdown, like also, I'll done this. Oh my Goshot, that would be we went and locked down. Oh, you want to see what happens? I doubt it will comes about. Yeah, but so we can do we find on social media game on your instagram? Yeah, instagram is carbon fiber art. Twitter is the same things of any social media I one is, yeah, fiber art, and that's awesome. So is the web not as good? It's kind of keeps it quite streamlines. People kind of you know, yeah, that's it. Yeah, yeah, but but not. I have a lovely evening. And Yeah, and yeah, well, the podcast and stuff. It sounds like it's going really well. Yeah, no, thunk. You really means a lot. Really means a lot, and you too, with what you're doing as well. Yeah, yeah, all the best. You take a buy a boat, se.

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